Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

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  by NIMBYkiller
 
Cool photos guys. Wish I could be there, but I had a full day at both school and work. Keep those photos commin!

BTW, I'm going to try to catch it on the lower montauk. Anyone know the "schedule" yet for that move? Speaking of schedules, I noticed the circus train actually ran on time this year. Amazing! Good job LIRR, Amtrak, and NS!

  by Frank
 
I shot some pictures and a video of the Circus Train at Clinton Rd station. The pictures will be up tomorrow, but the video is too large for me to upload (about 43MB). :(

I had a blast watching the train, though. :-D

  by pgengler
 
Frank wrote:I shot some pictures and a video of the Circus Train at Clinton Rd station. The pictures will be up tomorrow, but the video is too large for me to upload (about 43MB). :(

I had a blast watching the train, though. :-D
I was down at the Washington Ave. crossing ... I know I saw a bunch of people standing around at the Clinton Rd. crossing (I'd considered that as a photo spot). How many people were over there?

  by emfinite
 
Nice pictures guys! Here's a shot from Clinton Road station.

<img src="http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f53/e ... 18ead4.jpg">

Anybody else hear that guy blowing a train horn from his car today? Scared the crap out of me and almost made me drop my camera.

Joe

  by Johnny F
 
I seem to remember a good amount of switching and car placement in the old team yard in past years. Most of this yard has been removed. Are any cars currently spotted there or was the train just shoved down the single track towards Mitchell Field?

  by Long Island 7285
 
Johnny,

There is nothing left of the old team yard :( ly the only thing remaining is a real short stub of Track 1 which don't know if that has yet been removed.

The engines lead the train east past clinton road then they cut the frist part, pull east pass the west crossover then the engines run around the train and cross back to shove it east to mitchel to the very end of the secondary cutting the train to open the crossings.
Then the remaining train is pulled east to the part of the secondary where the yard turnouts used to be, engines run around and go west. I beleive the chase engine shoves the last cars east.

  by MACTRAXX
 
From what was said here it seems everything went well with the circus train move. Good pictures,guys! Are you guys ready to come out and see next week's move to west Queens? MACTRAXX

  by Frank
 
Here's the circus train photos as well as a couple others from Hempstead and Merrick.

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The rest is here.

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictu ... 2108355175

Enjoy. :-)

  by RPM2Night
 
So is there a schedule available yet for when the train is supposed to be leaving?? I don't wanna miss this lol. I had to work until 4 when the train came in and just barely got there in time to see them shoving the last part of the train, the flat cars into place, and then leaving the secondary. I wanna see some action this coming monday!

  by li7039
 

  by Lirr168
 
I noticed in one of the captions from the Long Island Railroader on arrts-archives a man with the position of "Asst. Trainmaster." I went back and did a search for the term here, and although it has been mentioned on several occasions, no one gave a clear indication of what a Trainmaster or Asst. Trainmaster would do; would someone be willing to give a quick explanation?

  by Clem
 
Twenty-five years ago, supervision in the Transportation Department consisted of two superintendents (passenger service and train movement), a trainmaster and three assistant trainmasters. In engine service there was a superintendent, a road foreman of engines and three assistant road foremen. That's eleven managers.

Today, there are roughly eleven superintendents, two general superintendents, a CTO, eighty-six transportation managers, twelve road foremen of engines, eighteen transportation supervisors, seven supervisors-train movement about fifteen other managers and three assistant trainmasters. I can't count that high.

Twenty-five years ago, the assistant trainmasters and assistant road foremen petitioned the government to unionize. The road foremen took a buy-out and relinquished their union rights, the assistant trainmasters did not.

Today the assistant trainmasters retain union work rules which make them a well paid lot. Their agreements put them in charge of a division, i.e. Southern / Northern. They work long hours mostly in the field and do much of the hands-on service restoration, rerailing, etc. They all have many years' seniority.

The Trainmaster title was restored after an absence of several years for what used to be car control clerks, who keep tally of what car is where. They are paid less than the assistants and have no field duties.

Both titles appear to predate the Pennsy acqusition -- there seem to have been trainmasters and assistant trainmasters as far back as at least 1870.

  by Lirr168
 
Thanks, Clem, a great explanation as usual.

  by bodhisattva
 
Heard that the Engineer John did a great job. It is a nice long train and reminds me of when we used to run freights. I wanted to run the Circus train this year but I am on another job earlier in the day. Would have made it my 2nd time running it. Oh well once is enough I guess!

  by RPM2Night
 
It's gotta be cool to say that you've experienced it. Hopefully sometime in the next few years I can be the conductor or brakeman on the job either spotting it, or taking it out.
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