by Steve F45
I was going to ask, how is the service doing now that its been a few weeks? What kind of ridership is there during offpeak hours on weekdays and what's it like on weekends?
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Douglas John Bowen wrote:Postponed. Held back. Delayed pending further review. Subject to future plans transcending passing sidings.This past weekend, I made a complaint in person to customer service about the lack of service to Teterboro on the weekends. Today I got a response via phone from NJT. According to them, the lack of weekend service to both Teterboro and Woodcliff Lake is due to low ridership numbers on the weekdays. They say that current ridership at both stations is somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 for each station and that projections for weekend service were much lower leading them to decide not to offer service to either station. I countered that increased service would lead to higher numbers but the CS rep said "Garwood on the RVL and Mount Tabor on the Morristown line are the same way as well and we have no plans to increase service to any of those stations either"
Teterboro (Hasbrouck Heights) had been slated to be served on weekends per most other stations on the Pascack Valley Line. That original concept, or plan, or idea is ... on hold.
NJ-ARP's understanding is that, pending the resolution of other items, such weekend service will be offered at Teterboro (Hasbrouck Heights).
Where eastbound trains meet westbounds, it should be noted that running the eastbounds earlier means the westbound runs earlier, too. This could result in missed connections from Secaucus in that direction.(In other words, don't wish for convenient westbound NEC connections to westbound PVL trains anytime soon).
Woodcliff Lake and Teterboro are scheduled to be skipped on weekends because they are low volume stops during the week.
Steve F45 wrote:you know what though, for some a new service that isn't even 2 months old yet its running pretty dam well.Steve-I reread my message and can see how one could interpret it.
andy wrote:oh ok i get ya now I was very tired last night while on the computer, plus my cat charles xavier was on my lap while trying to type. But it's nice to see them advertising it at stations, but that should've been done before the service started. While at wood-ridge last sunday when it snowed, train stopped for maybe 30 seconds. nobody got off and nobody got on. Conductor looked at me i looked at him and gave a hand gesture of like nope not getting on.Steve F45 wrote:you know what though, for some a new service that isn't even 2 months old yet its running pretty dam well.Steve-I reread my message and can see how one could interpret it.
I'm not arguing with you on that point at all. The new service is running quite well, despite the "growing pains" of the service, and is one of the reasons why I believe they are getting as much ridership as they are. They are also doing a much better job advertising it (I saw yesterday a large banner at Montvale Station - one of those large banners, not a cheaply printed sign).
All I'm saying is that with relatively few changes, transit could improve service more, which I am sure they are reviewing & considering for the spring timetable.
Sorry if it came across anything but that.
Weekdays inbound (7 trains)I wonder if someone is able to obtain the ridership counts from all stations.
Monday, Oct. 29: 35
Wednesday, Dec. 5: 48
Percent increase: 37
Weekdays outbound (7 trains)
Monday, Oct. 29: 42
Wednesday, Dec. 5: 53
Percent increase: 26
Weekends inbound (11 trains)
Sunday, Oct. 28, and Saturday, Nov. 3: 245
Saturday, Dec. 8, and Sunday, Dec. 9: 342
Percent increase: 40
Weekends outbound (12 trains)
Sunday, Oct. 28, and Saturday, Nov. 3: 268
Saturday, Dec. 8, and Sunday, Dec. 9: 335
Percent increase: 25