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Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.

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  by BandA
correkt answer
  by apodino
Commuterrail1050 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:04 pm Are they ever going to plan on extending stoughton line service once this starts or will it stay like this forever?
I would like to see it but Easton and Raynham are full of NIMBYs who don't want the trains. Stoughton is opposed as well, but I think you can get Stoughton on board with an easy pitch. At the Current Station, Wyman street is completely blocked while the train is stopped. If the extension happens, then the platforms would be south of Wyman street, meaning that Wyman street would not be blocked when Trains are stopped, which is better for Stoughton and everyone involved.

Easton just doesnt want the trains in their town. Raynham has used Environmental arguments in the past, saying that restoration will somehow damage the Hockomock swamp. I don't buy this at all, but I read a lot of letters in opposition to this in the past, and this was the main argument made, not grade crossings or any additional noise.
  by wicked
Folks may plan for the Hockomock swamp route to happen and there are conceptual plans for it, but that’s different from it actually happening.
  by mbrproductions
It might happen if they change the plans up a bit, NIMBYs are just an annoyance that can be overcome, just like they were in Greenbush
  by bostontrainguy
For a ridiculous cost.
  by BandA
The elephant in the room is the consent agreement between the state DCR and the US Army Corps of Engineers, including the ridiculous and unprecedented requirements baked in for "phase II". Which will never occur in the lifetime of anyone on this website. The NIMBYS have taken over the state government itself, along with their allies in environmental groups like the CLF and Sierra Club that wish to impose novel restrictions regardless of cost. Recall, this was a double tracked railroad main line established in the mid 1800s. Before the Shore Line was completed it was the primary route to NYC via steamships!
  by apodino
Here is the thing about those enviornmental groups. This is blatant hypocrisy. All the enviornmentalists out there say we have too many cars on the road and if you add more train it would take cars off the road and cut down pollution. But in this case, with a project that does everything they claim to purport, they say can't do it because of the enviornment. Which is it for goodness sakes? You can't have it both ways.
  by NH2060
bostontrainguy wrote:For a ridiculous cost.
And then some of the townspeople in Hingham reportedly COMPLAINED that no one on the train could see the town and therefore shop/stimulate the local economy…

You really cannot fix stupid.
  by pbj123
Wish this group had like buttons. So many remarks that are dead-on.
  by Commuterrail1050
Test trains or the mock runs have started on phase 1 according to the Mbta.com website. Just got updated today.
  by MBTAVideoClips
Anybody know specific times of when they test? I'd love to go check it out.
  by MBTA F40PH-2C 1050
Commuterrail1050 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:13 pm Test trains or the mock runs have started on phase 1 according to the Mbta.com website. Just got updated today.
haven't heard a peep yet about test trains. I'll ask tomorrow. Don't believe everything you read on that site, a lot is just "for show." Check the Mass Coastal forums to see if they are chirping about test trains. None of our Keolis crews are qualified down there yet, so if there are "test trains" testing the crossing circuits and cab signals, it'd be MC at the moment until our people get qualified on the NB/FR lines
  by GP40MC1118
A friend told me this morning that the signal heads at Coggeshall Street in New Bedford were no longer turned to the field.
  by lpetrich
South Coast Rail: MBTA says stations nearly done, bridge halfway there - 4:00 a.m. ET Feb. 5, 2024
South Coast Rail is gaining steam, with key stations in the project almost complete, according to officials at the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority.

The project, which will connect Fall River, New Bedford and Taunton with Boston by MBTA commuter rail, is still on track for a summer 2024 opening.
From the maps at South Coast Rail | Mass.gov I find this route for Phase I: from Middleborough station, westward to East Taunton, then south to Fall River and southeast to New Bedford.

The full buildout includes an additional line: from Stoughton station southward with some new stations to East Taunton station. I can't find this route on either OpenRailwayMap or Massachusetts - Abandoned Rails though OpenRailwayMap has the Phase I lines.
  by diburning
You can't find the line from Stoughton yet because it doesn't exist, whereas Phase I is just rehabilitation and upgrades of existing trackage for passenger service use. When/if the line from Stoughton gets built, it will be a completely new line (hence the discussion about the causeway though the swamp and the electrification thing)
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