Superliner Replacement Request For Proposal Released

I think every Amtrak service west of the Mississippi uses Superliners except the Cascades, River Runner, and San Joaquins (Amtrak California has some Superliners in captive service along side the California cars). I also wouldn't be surprised if, besides Chicago, a lot of Amtrak's daily maintenance facilities out west don't have room for taller equipment.

WASHINGTON – Amtrak is taking a major step towards improving overnight, cross-country train travel by issuing a formal Request for Proposals (RFP) to railcar manufacturers to begin the replacement of Amtrak’s current Long Distance fleet.

https://media.amtrak.com/2023/12/amtrak ... n-service/

SRich wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:36 am WASHINGTON – Amtrak is taking a major step towards improving overnight, cross-country train travel by issuing a formal Request for Proposals (RFP) to railcar manufacturers to begin the replacement of Amtrak’s current Long Distance fleet.

https://media.amtrak.com/2023/12/amtrak ... n-service/

100% pure unadultered boilerplate. Not a damn thing of value, other than Amtrak’s definition of a generation is twice as long as Union Pacific’s, Santa Fe’s, or Pullman’s EVER WAS.

Found this link on another website, attained via a FOIA process by RGPSKC.org
Amtrak's Technical Specifications for the new BiLevel order
https://dropbox.riograndeplansaltlakeci ... ev%201.pdf
Much more information available about the new trains than from the press release.

I don’t know what Amtrak did to the diagram pages, but if you don’t have a direct copy of the RFP, they’re worthless.

John_Perkowski wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:45 pm I don’t know what Amtrak did to the diagram pages, but if you don’t have a direct copy of the RFP, they’re worthless.

I am not the one who made the pdf, nor posted it on line. Yes, the drawings in the pdf are terrible.

It's a pity they only posted part of the document as well.

electricron wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:43 am Found this link on another website, attained via a FOIA process by RGPSKC.org
Amtrak's Technical Specifications for the new BiLevel order
https://dropbox.riograndeplansaltlakeci ... ev%201.pdf
Much more information available about the new trains than from the press release.

...someone scanned that through a fax machine. That's 200 dpi 1-bit. It's definitely not the original.

https://www.railwayage.com/passenger/in ... annel=home

Steve Gardner on the present LD equipment condition.

Has Amtrak ever heard of this concept called “sections?” The passenger operator runs multiple Trainsets for a specific train and date, each one operating basically one block cycle behind its leader. UP, ATSG, NYC, PRR, NP, GN, CB&Q … they were all capable of, and DID it.

Why can’t Amtrak? Oh, that’s right, their job is to do the minimum possible.

John_Perkowski wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:21 pm Has Amtrak ever heard of this concept called “sections?” The passenger operator runs multiple Trainsets for a specific train and date, each one operating basically one block cycle behind its leader. UP, ATSG, NYC, PRR, NP, GN, CB&Q … they were all capable of, and DID it.

Why can’t Amtrak? Oh, that’s right, their job is to do the minimum possible.

Under what conditions should they be able to take a path allocated for another train from the owning railroad? The UP (for example) is free do what it wants on its rails in terms of schedules as long as it doesn't violate a contracted path for a tenant, but doesn't have to give that tenant extra paths without prior negotiation.

With joint through trains so operated I'm sure that was all coordinated in advance; it happened every year in season, and the need came as no surprise. Of course in those days there was a lot of equipment on hand for such occasions.