by Arborwayfan
Maybe different service patterns, too: different volumes of different kinds of things to different kinds of customers. There's no export grain or coal or whatever coming to Boston via CSX.
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If the Class One railroads were in fact keeping their trains to schedule, then running a few 500-foot passenger trains each day would consume practically no track capacity at all and cause no disruption and limited need for infrastructure improvements. But when you operate on a model that cannot anticipate when a 15,000-foot train may arrive/depart Mobile, AL (or any other terminal), then such scheduled trains - as minuscule and fleet as they might be - create a problem. It is a sad day when a highly profitable railroad that only runs 11 trains a day on a mainline can demand $2.3 billion from the taxpayers for infrastructure improvements to add a handful of passenger trains on a route of 145 miles. (Note: This $2.3 billion figure is more than CSX spent on capital improvements to its entire network of 21,00 miles in 2017!)
mterrell wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:56 am What is a realistic start date/year for this route?In the Year 2525…
WashingtonPark wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:07 pm AMTRAK should be paying whatever the freight line is getting per train on average for every trip and any passenger facilities and have the freight lines pay for their own improvements that they want. And I agree the politicians are the main problem here. CSAO wants TNJ to pay for a separate passenger track and an EXTRA freight track between Camden and Woodbury to run their 3 to 4 trains a day in case business ever increases and it looks like the politicians will cave in. While making TNJ pay for a separate track is certainly understandable, why should the taxpayers be hit for a bill to provide CSAO with another track in case business improves? This is why people call these things boondoggles and won't support them.Much like Illinois paid to improve UP?
Carnival Cruise Line won’t be sailing out of Mobile for at least 11 months after the final voyage of the Carnival Ecstasy sails from the city’s downtown terminal on October 15, Mobile Mayor Sandy Stimpson confirmed in a statement Friday.From September 2023, Carnival Spirit (soon to be the third oldest ship in the fleet at 21 years old) is planned to come to Mobile until March 2024 when she heads back to do Alaska cruises... She's been in Australia but the uncertainty in that market is causing CCL to move it to Jacksonville first, and then over to Mobile before heading back to the Pacific in March 2024 to serve the Alaska market.
Stimpson said that Carnival Cruise Line president Christine Duffy contacted him on Thursday to inform him that cruising will be halted from the Alabama Cruise Terminal effective October 15 until September 2023.
eolesen wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:25 pm And... in yet another blow to Mobile.... the last remaining cruise ship currently homeported at Mobile will be retiring in October 2022, and there's no replacement until Fall 2023 at the earliest.Hmmm... ferry service between NOL and Mobile...
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With regard to the rail service... I don't know that having a cruise ship homeported at Mobile would have added or detracted from ridership. Carnival alone has two newer/larger ships homeported at NOL, and both Norwegian and Disney also sail from the port in addition to the Mississippi River cruises offered by American Queen and American Cruise Lines.
eolesen wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:25 pm And... in yet another blow to Mobile.... the last remaining cruise ship currently homeported at Mobile will be retiring in October 2022, and there's no replacement until Fall 2023 at the earliest.I don't see where a cruise ship would interfere with Amtrak or vice versa. A cruise ship is only in port one day a week usually arriving around 7:30am and departing around 4pm. Two trains a day should not block a crossing for more than 45 seconds and affect cruise ships only once a week. Not really a big deal.
https://www.maritime-executive.com/arti ... dest-ships
https://www.al.com/news/2022/02/mobile- ... tober.html
Carnival Cruise Line won’t be sailing out of Mobile for at least 11 months after the final voyage of the Carnival Ecstasy sails from the city’s downtown terminal on October 15, Mobile Mayor Sandy Stimpson confirmed in a statement Friday.From September 2023, Carnival Spirit (soon to be the third oldest ship in the fleet at 21 years old) is planned to come to Mobile until March 2024 when she heads back to do Alaska cruises... She's been in Australia but the uncertainty in that market is causing CCL to move it to Jacksonville first, and then over to Mobile before heading back to the Pacific in March 2024 to serve the Alaska market.
Stimpson said that Carnival Cruise Line president Christine Duffy contacted him on Thursday to inform him that cruising will be halted from the Alabama Cruise Terminal effective October 15 until September 2023.
With regard to the rail service... I don't know that having a cruise ship homeported at Mobile would have added or detracted from ridership. Carnival alone has two newer/larger ships homeported at NOL, and both Norwegian and Disney also sail from the port in addition to the Mississippi River cruises offered by American Queen and American Cruise Lines.