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  by jaymac
 
0240-0440/03-11-2022 was more audio than visual, things starting at 0248 with first Road-side and then Yard Channel hash. 0252 presented a "Q426, back 5 to the hitch," followed by a discussion of sets and releases. Given subsequent events, guessing that 426 was setting off a DPU before heading E from Burncoat, cuz 0314 was the time effective for a broken -- thanks yet again, Mount Wachusett -- Form D G302 for Burncoat to MP X24, X24 instead X25 most likely to provide headroom for POAY whose car countdowns started getting heard at 0300. More about 426 and POAY will follow. 0315 was when the 333 WLs were dark, Stops for the 334 ELs and darkness for the 1 WB stagger and 335s to follow, hash intensity diminishing with increasing distance.
Up Da Hill, the 345s were dark, and 4 in the yard was pretty much FP-FP with general that included MT centerbeams.
EB and E of the Rte. 2 crest and at 0340 started a continuing series of Yard Channel hashes that would occasionally clear up to POAY activity. At 0345, the 333 WLs were dark. The EB staggers for 330 would be at Approach, the 330.8 WBs and 330 WLs and ELs dark, but the GL and FG WLs at Stop, no occupants visible either E of the Fitchburg platform or at or immediately W of FG.
At 0400, NewBlue 5958 was dark and solo in the FI-1/2 parking spot, and post refueling stop, a breaking D-3 would advise POAY on Channel 2 at 0407 that that Q426 would be "pretty late" coming up to Ayer. 2 later, D-3 would then go to Channel 1 to advise Q426 that they had a 4-hour set-back for tomorrow.
0411 was when the EB staggers for Derby were dark and the RVJ stub MT, stub status not to be reported again until it changes.
Yard Channel intermittent hash would continue. At 0427, D-3 would 241 AY-3 with the 7595 1 E to 1 at CPF AY and 11 later would ask if they were ready to reverse direction, giving them that and then adding they could take the station. Never heard by 0440 if they would going to West Main Street or the yard.
When I was leaving my car, there was 0441 crossing noise, possibly 426 at Clinton or a bit further east.
  by neman2
 
Q427 got a Form D MP X25 to Burncoat at 11:42. I'm not a constant radio listener but I believe this is quite late.
  by jaymac
 
ImPrecision Scheduled Railroading?
Mebbe the 4-hour setback for the 03-12 Q426 was to guarantee sufficient rest time between 427 and 426.
  by neman2
 
I know you are not a weekend Gardner warrior but I just heard a very scratchy D3 give a Form D to Q427 MPX 25 to Burncoat at 18:26 on Saturday. ImPrecision Scheduled domino effect?
  by neman2
 
Jaymac giving you a heads up if things are strange Monday. I heard D3 (Only hearing dispatch side) at 16:16 on 3/13/22 tell Q427 "There was no Q426 yesterday so no CSX power ran." At 16:30 D3 called "CSX switcher" to say " The train is east of Burncoat so I can give you a Form D to pull it west or you can just tie on and pull it west, that's okay with us." Next heard was D3 " There's no paperwork in the knuckle or cab of Pan Am engine 7605?" Nothing heard for next 15 minutes. A good bet the conductor got off the train, walked away from the ROW and made copious use of the cellphone. One more note at 18:51 D2 informed POAY "they would be set back to 9AM tomorrow."
  by jaymac
 
0235-0430/03-14-2022 was "interesting," neman2's 03-13 post -- tnx for the hedzup -- setting things up as non-NCAA March Madness. P&W Yard Channel hash was the opener at 0235, 0239 presenting company Road-Side hash and 0242 Dispatcher-side hash.
At 0242, there would be a broken 241 to somebody with the 7556 at CPF AY, followed immediately by Q426 reaching out and getting D-3's equally broken response. 426 had been reasonably strong, so guessing that they were at Burncoat or only a bit east. And yes, that would be the last reception of clarity to, from, or about 426.
At 0306, D-3 answered OZ-20 and then gave the 7520 permission to reverse direction from where they stood and proceed west to CPF AY. Guessing OZ-20 was a crew ID, mebbe for the POED that would get mentioned later.
At 0309, the 333 WLs were dark, and there would be 0312 D-? garble on the way over to 334 -- ELs at Stop and 1 WB stagger dark, the 335s ".
WB at 0319, D-3 again answered OZ-20, telling them that were supposed to pick up "those" cars. That was closely followed by D-3 advising FI-3 to call it a day and get themselves to wherever a maintainer could get to them. Mount Wachusett was now in the way, so the D-3 mentions of POED to FI-3 would get garbled.
Up Da Hill, the 345s were dark, and there was 1 covered hopper -- mebbe on the Bull Run -- up by the E end of the Pratt yard. At 0323, D-3 gave OZ-20 permission to reverse direction et c. 1 E to 1 at CPF Camp.
The EB trip was quiet until 0327 when D-3 asked OZ-20 if they were ready for the signal. At 0338, the 333 WLs were dark, and further E, the EB staggers for 330 would be at Approach.
0342 was when FI-3 advised that they were lined and locked and checked normal, D-3 repeating and acknowledging. Never heard or saw where, but given signal strength, OX mighta been a possibility.
The 330.8 WBs, 330 WLs and ELs, and the GL WLs were all dark, but at 0448, the FG 2 WL showed a restricting, so I pulled into the gym lot. Cuzza EB power, the signal then dropped, NB 5958 coming to a stop at the FI-1/2 parking spot at 0355. 7 later, the EB staggers for Derby would be dark.
At 0407 -- in between 0405 and 0410 Road-side hash -- D-3 would answer AY-3, Mount Wachusett temporarily blocking the rest.
0415 would be when D-3 would 241 OZ-20 -- now with the 7575 given as power -- 1 E to 1 at CPF Camp and back to their train. Only a coupla static bursts would follow until 0430 when D-3 would 241 AY-3 with the 7595 from the Single W to 2 at 312. The puzzling/pleasing thing about that was that AY-3 was semi-intelligible to me in my driveway those many miles away.
  by jaymac
 
0235-0420/03-16-2022 was 1 of the quicker trips in a bit, despite some areas of heavy fog and an aversity to making more Bambiburger. Things started off at the start with Yard Channel hash that would temporarily clear with a change in position to POAY car countdowns. To have your reading experience mirror my riding experience, take as a given that there would be ongoing spells of Yard Channel hash, the only clear ID being that of POAY.
The scanner went quiet as I went west, and at 0308, the 333 WLs were dark, Stops for the 334 Els and darkness for the 1 WB stagger and the 335s in sequence.
Radio silence would get broken most the way up Da Hill by Boston East hash at 0318, 0319 being when D-3 called out to the somebody that had just called out to him. A series of public safety encroachments would start at 0320, so dunno what mighta transpired company-wise.
Up Da Hill, the 345s were dark and the yard MT. Non-emergency PD business would continue on the Dispatcher side of Channel 1 until I was on the E side of the Rte. 2 crest and outta range.
At 0334, the 333 WLs were dark, and further E, the EB staggers for 330 would show a Medium Approach for 1 and an Approach for 2, all else up to and including the FG WLs being dark.
At 0347, dark, solo, and E-facing KCIR 5948 sat on West Side and double-stack trashes sat on the W end of East Side. Overflow WBs?
7 later, the EB staggers for Derby were dark.
At 0402 and with Mount Wachusett a factor, there was Dispatcher-side hash followed by Road-side hash.
At 0417, D-3 reached out to AY-3, brief hash to follow with a following "District 3, out."
The remaining 3 were -- like much of the earlier time -- quiet.
Q426/7? Not even crossing noise.
  by jwhite07
 
Q-somebody crossing noise heard throughout the southern reaches of the Dubya Bee around 6:30-ish this morning. That would usually be a late-ish Q427 but with the recent imprecision of PSR, who knows. I'm not such a tracker that I can tell which direction just from the sound.
  by jaymac
 
Mebbe cuzza the fog, but that noise never got to me in Plainole Bee. The interval -- either EB or WB -- between MPs X6.0 and X7.8 is 10/11 minutes. A heavy EB can take longer between Burncoat and X6.0 than a WB slowing for Burncoat, that being ~10.
  by jaymac
 
0240-0420/03-21-2022 was another quick trip. There was early Yard Channel hash, but and again of the P&W brand. Despite having heard ~0030 crossing noise from somewhere E of X7.8, there would be naught IDable among what would be the sparse hash to, from, or about Q426/7 or POAY/AYPO, for that matter.
There was Dispatcher-side hash at 0311, the same time that the 333 WLs were dark, followed in a minute by Yard Channel hash. The 334 Els would be at Stop and the the 1 WB stagger and 335s dark.
There would be 0321 Yard Channel hash, followed immediately by D-3 answering AY-5 and then OKing them on signal indication.
Up Da Hill, the 345s were dark and the yard MT. Only a spell of public safety encroachments would break the radio silence.
At 0338, the 333 WLs were dark, and AMTK was kind enough to demonstrate scanner function. Further E, the EB staggers for 330 were at Approach with darkness for all else up to and including the FG WLs. There had been brief 0344 Dispatcher-side hash, and at 0351, the FI-1/2 parking spot was MT, producing musings about whether FI-2 had been repurposed as AY-5.
At 0357, the the EB staggers for Derby appeared dark from Nashua Street, the RVJ yard being active.
10 later, D-probably2 called out to 556, any further activity on that event being overridden by D-3 answering AY-3, rogering whatever they said, asking how many cars they had, rogering their response, and then OKing them on signal indication.
In a normally good area for D-3 Channel 1 receptions, there was 0419 Dispatcher-side hash, but naught further by the end of 0420 end of listening.
Too early for any guesses about shoving ops Into daylight commuter windows, but could be.

Edited for update: 0615 and 0625 XNG noises for X7.8 and X6.0, probably Q427.
  by jaymac
 
0240-0440/03-23-2022 had its moments, but not for more than a bit. 0248 was when P&W Dispatcher St. Albans provided proof of scanner function, that to be followed at 0303 by Road-side hash with only "AY-3" clear, more about whom to follow. 1 later, AY-4 let themselves know it was 10 to go, hash now increasing with increasing distance from Hill Yard.
Amidst some hash at 0308 there was a "D-3 out, " but naught else before or after the 0313 when the 333 WLs were dark.
The 334 ELs would be at Stop and the the 1 WB stagger and 335s dark, not even static eruptions as accompaniment.
Up Da Hill, the 345s were dark, and general -- tanks, company guns, 1 shortie, full-size covered hoppers, and at least 1 MT center beam -- were on 2 in the yard from the W end of the MART garage to just about the W FP. Oh yeah, the 346.6 talker started doing just that at 0329 and the the 345s came on with a Clear on the 1 WL, 0333 being when a no defects, total axle count 230, 22º, and 5174' got announced, just before protracted public safety encroachments.
NSs 6952, 7540, and 9487 got onto the Single at 0338 with a 22K -- or cuzza its brevity possibly an I2K -- with the close-to rear half being MT wells and tables. To jump outta chronological sequence and with the complications of ZombieZones and a later refueling stop, no yarding instructions would be heard, so dunno if Wachusett, Fitchburg platform, or FG might be possible holding or recrew/decrew points.
EB and at 0341 came D-? garble that there were no changes to the Summary, and occasional Yard Channel hash -- unIDable -- would get heard.
At 0348, the 333 WLs were dark, and D-3 hashed out something to AY-3 that involved FG, AY-3 being equally hashed, but strong. The EB staggers for 330 would show Approaches and the 330.8 WBs darkness. At 0356, a strong AY-3 advised D-3 that they'd like to go east leg of the wye. Any D-3 response woulda been eaten by the ZombieZone I was then in. The 330 WLs and Els and GL and FG WLs were all dark.
At 0402, NewBlue 5958 sat dark, solo and W-facing in the FI-1/2 parking spot. If AY-3 had brought overflow west, mebbe it was on West Side cuz covered hoppers were all that were readily visible on East Side.
Post refueling stop, the EB staggers for Derby were dark at 0413, and 0417 was when there was brief Road-side hash. Mount Wachusett was then between me and the Paxton antenna, so dunno about any D-3 response.
except for 0437 garble involving AYPO, only occasional Yard Channel hash would round out the trip.
Again, Q426/7 was among the unheard, both over the scanner and for XNG noise.
  by jaymac
 
0235-0430/03-26-2022 was quiet until 0237 when CSXT decided to produce some hash. Company hash held off -- for me, at least -- until 0241 when the Yard Channel got busy, To save my fingers and your eyes, take as a given that Yard Channel activity would continue pretty much throughout the trip. Take it as another given that POAY would be the principal attributable source, the 1 exception being at 0256 when AY-Relief told themselves to bring it back a couple of cars, naught further being heard to, from, or about that crew.
At 0307, the 333 WLs were dark, Stops for the 334 Els and darkness for the 1 WB stagger and the 335s to follow.
Up Da Hill, the 345 ELs were at Stop and the 2 WL at Medium Clear, ED-8 or FI-3 with NSs 6954, 1225, and ???? sitting on 2 just W of West Switch. There were tanks and hoonose what else to the W, and given the lack of talk, guessing that the C was about to or had just started W to do his walking and winding. 15 minutes were spent in radio range and never heard a brake test request, so it probably woulda been a sizable setoff. 4 in the yard had general that included MT centerbeams, lotsa covered hoppers, Brand X scrap gons, and at least 1 box. An unplacarded tank sat on the Extension. Radio silence did get broken at 0322 when D-3 reached out to Q426 and rogered whatever they said. They were probably at or near X25 cuz I'd heard X7.8 XNG noise at 0132. Naught further to, from, or about Q426/7 would get to me.
At 0356, the 333 WLs were dark. Further E, the EB staggers for 330 would be at Approach and all else up to and including the FG WLs would be dark.
At 0358, the FI-1/2 parking spot was MT, and 6 later, the EB staggers for Derby reinforced the darkness theme, a covered hopper sitting on the W end of the RVJ stub.
Hash would continue intermittently with POAY as the only IDable source, although there was a brief spurt of NECR hash ~0425.

Edited for update -- XNG noise X7.8 0840 and X6.0 0851 for probable 427.
Last edited by jaymac on Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
  by arthur d.
 
Jay, Next time you refuel at the 330/331 Cumby's would you please include a fuel price report? I know the Unified station up the street is cheaper, but Cumby's has better snacks.
  by jaymac
 
The Cleghorn/330.8 was 3.89/3.99 for the 03-26 trip. The NLeo -- normally close or sometimes even less -- was 4.19/4.29. (Member/nonmember for those unfamiliar)
  by jaymac
 
0240-0500/03-28-2022 was active, as the the timespan would indicate. T he 1st company activity came at 0251 when D-3 answered FI-2 and rogered whatever they'd said, adding something about the W end of WL, indicating that FI-2 might again have been repurposed.
At 0256, it would be AY-3's turn to be answered by D-3, another roger getting said, but with the addition that FI-2 would be doing a runaround and that it'd be OK on signal indication for AY-3 when FI-2 was done. Naught further would be heard to, from, or about AY-3. There was only brief and Channel hash to follow, and at 0310, the 333 WLs were dark. Boston West would break the radio silence at 0312, and the 334 Els would be at Stop and the 1 WB stagger dark a couple later.
The 335 ELs, however were at Stop, but to add to puzzlement, the WLs were dark at the same time. D-3 would reduce the puzzlement at 0318 when he called out to POED and advised that they'd need a 241 for 335. POED's acknowledgment was heard, so I decided to practice patience, the reward for which was seeing the ELs go dark and then come back on and go dark again. Dunno if D-3 was doing magic at his board, but at 0340 he advised POED to take the signal if they saw one. At 0345, the signals came back on, 3 white lights next appeared in the E, and POED didn't call out an unfavorable set of lights, good since the POV from the 335 lot doesn't provide me the aspects. POED with KCIR 7535, and NewBlues 5968 and 7535 -- the same as documented in Austin Logan's 03-27 http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=268637 of POED tied down at Atkinson -- got 58 onto the Single at 0349. There were MT and wrapped centerbeams, corrosive and unplacarded tanks, slurries, covered hoppers that included a shortie, boxes, and a coupla gons.
Radio silence would get broken at 0357 by Dispatcher-side hash, that to be followed by an extended period of public safety incursions, mebbe also the source of the 0357.
Up Da Hill, the 345s were dark and the yard MT, and my supply of patience already depleted, I was EB were before POED was on the block.
The EB trip was quiet until 0412 when it sounded like 400 had finished their air. Never heard any 241 activity for them so 335 musta stayed healthy. 1 later was when the 333 WLs were dark. Further E, the EB staggers for 330 showed a Medium Approach for 1 and an Approach for 2. All else up to and including the FG WLs would be dark. OT, but no change since 04-25 in prices at the 330.8/Cleghorn Cumby's.
At 0426, the FI-1/2 parking spot was MT and D-3 reached out to FI-3 -- yes, three -- and 3 later, D-3 called out again to FI-3 with NS 6971, saying they were to shove their cars back for a runaround between AY and WL.
0431 was when -- account RVJ lot activity -- the EB staggers for Derby looked dark from Nashua Street. a covered hopper was still on the W end of the stub.
At 0435, D-3 answered FI-3, confirming that things were lined and locked normal for main line movement on the #2. Mount Wachusett started becoming a factor, fuzzing the additions about shoving back to WL, power to Ayer, and an OK on signal indication, saying he'd get them moving after FI-2 got clear.
0437 was when D-3 asked FI-2 when they were heading back W. There was some hash, and at 0439, D-3 gave FI-2 with the 5963 permission to reverse direction from where they stood and to proceed W to CPF AY, then asking if they were heading back light power. FI-2 -- now audible -- said thy'd be stopping at West Main Street to pick up cars. 5 later, D-3 advised FI-2 that it was OK through Ayer station cuz 400 *garbled*.
Things would get quiet for me until near the end with unattributable Yard Channel activity that included "83 in the rear" at 0500. Given the semi-strength, could been Q427, probable 426 X7.8 XNG noise heard around ~2400/03-27.
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