by R3 Passenger
South Jersey Budd wrote:I HAVE looked through the posts and even SEPTA's AGM of Customer Service stated this was a test to see if it warranted adding a train. It started with one bus, one driver and is now three buses and three drivers plus fuel and mileage. If the bus carries 50?, times 3 buses = 150 Passengers which is about a 2 car train. They may even pick up some additional passengers if you make other stops especially at Trenton since NJT runs through the night.Let me pull up the following gem of an analysis I did regarding the bus to train conversion:
R3 Passenger wrote:I have been saying this since the creation of this route. I even took it recently again. It is full to near capacity. And, keep in mind, this is all just from one station! Although, I would like to add that I found transferring to the El at 30th Street is much quicker than taking the bus all the way to 8th and Market.Tritransit Area wrote:The former special IRS runs on the 14 and 1 are what's paying for the 78 if I'm not mistaken.Also, in reference to the subsidy, are these buses really subsidized? Cash fare is $6.00, no tokens or anything below a Zone 3 trailpass is accepted. Sounds like the rail fare structure. Oh wait...it IS the rail fare structure.
Speaking of capacity, I counted 60 seats per articulated bus. A single Silverliner 4 can hold about 110 passengers, IIRC. If there are already 3 buses filled to capacity, that would be 180 people, enough for a 2 car Silverliner 4 train with some extra capacity for growth. If you throw in flag stops between Trenton and Cornwells, you might be able to fill that empty capacity. Heck, if that was done, I wouldn't even need to pull the car out of the garage to drive to Cornwells! However, that would be an addition of 16 non-revenue miles to a deadhead run.
Anyone feel like squabbling with me over the need for SEPTA to take over Barracks Yard?
Lines Frequented: SEPTA Trenton Line, West Trenton Line, Warminster Line; NJT Northeast Corridor Amtrak Northeast Corridor (PHL-NYP).