Anyone noticed the mess between Hamburg & Selkirk??

pnolette wrote:So how is CSX running west of Selkirk? I'm going with my family next week to Palintine Bridge.My 7 year old loves to watch the trains go by the motel!

My prediction, you will have a rich and rewarding day, it is a nice spot.
A few years back when I was the regular engineer on one side of TVLA,
my conductor and I would make a non money bet as to how many cars
would be parked in the parking lot, sometimes I won and sometimes he
won. All we won were bragging rights for the next mile.
Noel Weaver

Thanks for the info.My son loves watching to see how much foriegn power he can see.He can figure out what type of unit it is before I can!
Peter B&MMEC

Palatine Bridge had a controlled siding before L. Stanley Crane came past on an inspection train one day soon after he came to CR. Poof! The siding was gone. Well, actually, poof it was out of service, then a while later they took it up.

Not sure that it is fair to fault Stanley Crane for the removal of various
controlled sidings on the Mohawk (and the SR&B for that matter too), the
tax structure of New York State in my opinion unfairly taxed railroads
and as a result, for many years all of them were anxious to remove
anything in New York State that was deemed not needed for their daily
operations. The New York Central did the same thing years previously.
Noel Weaver

pnolette wrote:Thanks for the info.My son loves watching to see how much foriegn power he can see.He can figure out what type of unit it is before I can!
Peter B&MMEC

Another thing that both you and your son might well enjoy is a visit to
Lock 14 (I think that is the correct number) located to the west of
Palatine Bridge and east of Nelliston/Fort Plain. There is a private
crossing over the two tracks at that location and there is ample parking.
The lock attendants throughout the canal system are friendly and visitors
are welcome. Many of the locks have old brass controls and are very
interesting to watch operate.
You won't miss any trains here either as the railroad goes right by.
Noel Weaver

Crane and his associates wrecked the former NYC...PRR...EL and other roads.

-C-

Yeah, well, whatever.

I know for a fact that the day after Mr. Crane toured the Conrail Mohawk-Hudson Division, on an inspection train, that several interlockings/crossovers were taken out of service, along with several controlled sidings. The idea being to save on maintenance requirements -- rationalizing the physical plant in line with traffic at that time.

Believe what you will, but Mr. Crane's draconian actions at that time are credited with saving huge amounts of capital, and eventually saving the company from certain liquidation or nationalization.

His fight to save it from the hands of NS served the eventual shareholders in a very positive way.

JJJeffries wrote:Crane and his associates wrecked the former NYC...PRR...EL and other roads.

Uh................how do you figure that???

Conrail went from a ward of the government to a company that had THE LARGEST (at that time) public stock offering. The company had to survive first and foremost--if not, there may NOT HAVE BEEN any rails to even look at today! No offense, but that was a sort of baseless statement.