Noel Weaver wrote:I suspect the majority of the travel on this set of trains is not New York or even Washington to or from Savannah but rather it is between intermediate stations. I bet the average length of trip is somewhat similar to trips in the Northeast Corridor. It seems to me that Amfleet I equipment would generally be adequate for this train most times. Noel Weaver
You may be right, you may be wrong. Do you have any train specific data to back up your opinion? Here's the best data I can find. In general, not train specific, the average train ride on NEC trains is 174 miles, while the average train ride on Amtrak LD trains is 600 miles. That's a significant difference, and I might add the Palmetto is considered a LD train by Amtrak.
Sources:
A) The average long distance passenger travels over 600 miles.
http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/BlobServe ... Trains.pdf
1) Amtrak’s Northeast Corridor (NEC) is the busiest railroad in North America, with more than 2,200 trains operating over some portion of the Washington-Boston route each day. More than a quarter of a million riders use the NEC on every weekday, generating more than 4.9 million daily passenger miles.
Math = 4,900,000 passenger miles / 250,000 passengers = 19.6 average miles traveled per passenger.
Note: This obviously includes commuting passengers using the corridor by MARC, SEPTA, NJT, MTA, SLE, and MBTA.
2) The Boston-New York-Washington portion of the Northeast Corridor carried 10,375,209 passengers in FY 2010 on Acela Express, Regional Service or other trains.
http://www.theenvironmentalblog.org/201 ... assengers/
To limit the numbers to just Amtrak, they can be derived from Amtrak's monthly reports.
For 2010 they are:
Acela - 610 million PM
Regional - 1,084 million PM
Keystone - 114 million PM
Total = 1.808 billion PM
Math = 1,808 million PM / 10,375,209 P = 174 average miles
Note: I probably figured this wrong, but it's the best data I can find and figure....
I suppose the true average distance passengers travel on the Palmetto is somewhere between 174 miles and 600 miles. But please don't assume the shorter travel distances associated with NEC trains pertains to it.
Surprisingly, I found a source, more of a blog, with data specifically for the Palmetto.
http://www.unitedrail.org/2011/06/27/th ... 011-06-28/
The annual passenger count is 189,500, and the average length of trip is 450.2 miles.
450 miles isn't 600 miles, but it is much longer than 174 miles. Assuming an average speed around 50 mph, that 450 miles is 9 hours. The entire length the Palmetto travels is 829 miles. So 450 miles would be 54% of the total distance, about half way.