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Discussion related to Amtrak also known as the National Railroad Passenger Corp.

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  by daylight4449
 
chuchubob wrote:
BuddSilverliner269 wrote:Heads up...yours truly will have his last run on the road on train 66 tonight. Per the manifest, it willhave 2 deadhead coaches behind the locomotive plus 2 private cars. I believe they will be PRR stainless steel cars. The private cars will come off in new haven.
The PV will be Greenwich Estate and Greenwich Harbor.
Are those normal PV, or the Pennsy depressed-floor coaches? I can't tell from the pictures.
  by Gilbert B Norman
 
From Holiday Inn Bowling Green KY--

Mr. Daylight, both the Greenwich Estate and Greenwich Harbor were former PRR "Congressional" cars built by Budd during 1952; many of these "Congo" cars were acquired by Amtrak and were in revenue service through the 70's and into the '80's.

The cars you are addressing are the 1956 vintage tubular train which was named The Keystone; here is a photo of such that Mr. Dunville had previously linked at another topic:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=320850

I've now seen the Train Day Washington brochure that includes interior photos of the two "Greenwich--" cars, and if i may say so they look pretty "classy'. But then what else can one expect with anything named Greenwich.
  by chuchubob
 
"Classy" is an understatement, Mr. Norman. Their interiors are magnificent.
  by daylight4449
 
chuchubob wrote:"Classy" is an understatement, Mr. Norman. Their interiors are magnificent.
Just by looking at the pics, one can tell they look great.
  by nomis
 
chuchubob wrote:
BuddSilverliner269 wrote:Heads up...yours truly will have his last run on the road on train 66 tonight. Per the manifest, it willhave 2 deadhead coaches behind the locomotive plus 2 private cars. I believe they will be PRR stainless steel cars. The private cars will come off in new haven.
The PV will be Greenwich Estate and Greenwich Harbor.
104 936 Viewliner PV's 7142 & 7124 ... through HOLMES trying to make it up to 100mph
  by nomis
 
Last night 15 mins @ Trenton ...
  • 66 w/ 101&929
  • Stone train w/ 574 & hack
  • Circus train locos waiting for orders to pick up the train in Morrisville
  by DutchRailnut
 
at about 12:50 saw what appeared to be both Beechgrove and Corridor clipper on a eastbound at Harrison NY.
  by crazytiger
 
AMTK 184 is on the point of the NB Crescent. It's running 4 hours and 20+ minutes late in VA.
  by CSX Conductor
 
Lite engine move from Boston Southampton Street Yard to NYP (Possibly further after crew change). Sign-up at 530pm and probably get stuck behind train #179 from Providence down. Two electric motors: 656 & 940.
  by hi55us
 
CSX Conductor wrote:Lite engine move from Boston Southampton Street Yard to NYP (Possibly further after crew change). Sign-up at 530pm and probably get stuck behind train #179 from Providence down. Two electric motors: 656 & 940.
Why can't they just tack them onto a regular train?
  by Amtrakguy
 
Dont want to risk a delay on a revenue train. The problems are with 940, 656 is supposedly repaired in Boston. But don't trust the repairs. 940 has traction motor gear case issues.
  by Amtrakguy
 
Display train traveling from DC to Lorton Tommorow night. 822 in lead, F40 cabbage car 406 behind. Returning to DC Sunday night.
  by DutchRailnut
 
if there are restrictions it would effect entire move.
are there power restrictions ? Wheel problems, etc a defective unit can only be shipped in non-revenue service as per FRA rules.

TITLE 49--TRANSPORTATION

CHAPTER II--FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION

PART 229_RAILROAD LOCOMOTIVE SAFETY STANDARDS--Table of Contents

Subpart A_General

Sec. 229.9 Movement of non-complying locomotives.

(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b), (c), Sec. 229.125(g), and
Sec. 229.131(b) and (c)(1), a locomotive with one or more conditions
not in compliance with this part may be moved only as a lite locomotive
or a dead locomotive after the carrier has complied with the following:
(1) A qualified person shall determine--
(i) That it is safe to move the locomotive; and
(ii) The maximum speed and other restrictions necessary for safely
conducting the movement;
(2)(i) The engineer in charge of the movement of the locomotive
shall be notified in writing and inform all other crew members in the
cab of the presence of the non-complying locomotive and the maximum
speed and other restrictions determined under paragraph (a)(1)(ii) of
this section.
(ii) A copy of the tag described in paragraph (a)(3) of this section
may be used to provide the notification required by paragraph (a)(2)(i)
of this section.
(3) A tag bearing the words ``non-complying locomotive'' and
containing the following information, shall be securely attached to the
control stand on each MU or control cab locomotive and to the isolation
switch or near the engine start switch on every other type of
locomotive--
(i) The locomotive number;
(ii) The name of the inspecting carrier;
(iii) The inspection location and date;
(iv) The nature of each defect;
(v) Movement restrictions, if any;
(vi) The destination; and
(vii) The signature of the person making the determinations required
by this paragraph.
(b) A locomotive that develops a non-complying condition enroute may
continue to utilize its propelling motors, if the requirements of
paragraph (a) are otherwise fully met, until the earlier of--
(1) The next calendar day inspection, or
(2) The nearest forward point where the repairs necessary to bring
it into compliance can be made.
(c) A non-complying locomotive may be moved lite or dead within a
yard, at speeds not in excess of 10 miles per hour, without meeting the
requirements of paragraph (a) of this section if the movement is solely
for the purpose of repair. The carrier is responsible to insure that the
movement may be safely made.
(d) A dead locomotive may not continue in use following a calendar
day inspection as a controlling locomotive or at the head of a train or
locomotive consist.
(e) A locomotive does not cease to be a locomotive because its
propelling motor or motors are inoperative or because its control jumper
cables are not connected.
(f) Nothing in this section authorizes the movement of a locomotive
subject to a Special Notice for Repair unless the movement is made in
accordance with the restrictions contained in the Special Notice.
(g) Paragraphs (a), (b), and (c) of this section shall not apply to
sanitation conditions covered by Sec. Sec. 229.137 and 229.139.
Sections 229.137 and 229.139 set

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forth specific requirements for the movement and repair of locomotives
with defective sanitation compartments.
  by CSX Conductor
 
940 is destined for DC, Traction Motor problems.
  by Matt Johnson
 
CSX Conductor wrote:940 is destined for DC, Traction Motor problems.
Is 940 an AEM7AC? If so, I guess it's an AC bound for DC!
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