by Tommy Meehan
Is the prohibition on weekend service to NYP because of maintenance work in the Hudson River tunnel? Is the tunnel still single-track all weekend?
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Tommy Meehan wrote:One question I wondered about was inbound passengers detraining or outbound passengers boarding at Newark. Were there many? You would think there would be some, that there would be people bound for Lower Manhattan who would still find it faster to take PATH from Newark.It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with that. I live in Newark, for example, and am not alone. Many others originate for their rail trip at Newark for whatever reason. I will probably ride some of these trains to NYP or down the RVL at some point, and I would fall into this category. Same with people that work in Newark; they will still get off where they did.
Tommy Meehan wrote:Is the prohibition on weekend service to NYP because of maintenance work in the Hudson River tunnel? Is the tunnel still single-track all weekend?
Regardie wrote:I took the first ride into and out of the city yesterday. I can report that the locomotive was 4516, we got held up crossing the NEC south of Newark, arrived in Newark on track A a little late. The mode change happened at Newark. Lights flickered a little during the changeover. We were held leaving Newark waiting for the train on track 1 to clear. We arrived on track 2 at NYP about 9 minutes late.A good report; next best thing to actually being on it.
A good report; next best thing to actually being on it.Agreed. I've been on the MLV's many many many times and they generally seem like the cleanest cars in the fleet.
One question mark is "scrubbed up the MLV." I've never noticed anything that needed scrubbing on them. Anyhow, I'm glad that Transit went all out to make the first train sparkle.
Tommy Meehan wrote:Thanks very much. On another list someone said the RVL trains can't run on weekends because on weekends they are single-tracking through the tunnel. That sounded kind of excessive, to be doing it every single weekend.The Raritan passengers should tread lightly and not make too much noise. Don't think the passengers from the Bergen, Main and Pascack Valley Lines aren't watching. They started complaining about the lack of direct service before the dual modes were barely on the property. When it was pointed out the Bergen Loop doesn't exist, they basically said "build it..we pay taxes too," which is basically what the Raritan rides said.
If you look at the local news sites in Union and Somerset Counties you'll see riders aren't wasting anytime in already pushing for expanded service -weekends and at least limited rush hour service. I think one-seat service into NYP has the potential to really increase ridership. Look at how Midtown Direct has affected Morristown Line ridership and Secaucus Jct. has affected Main, Bergen and Pascack Valley ridership, at least off-peak.
BigDell wrote:A good report; next best thing to actually being on it.Agreed. I've been on the MLV's many many many times and they generally seem like the cleanest cars in the fleet.
One question mark is "scrubbed up the MLV." I've never noticed anything that needed scrubbing on them. Anyhow, I'm glad that Transit went all out to make the first train sparkle.
Still can't wait to ride this thing out of Fanwood....
Hardly conclusive since they are the newest. They don't have (in some cases) decades of constant use.That's the point... I can't imagine why they'd need a good scrubdown for the "new" RVL nonstops. Even with all the salt and grit from this winter, they look pretty decent inside and out. Interesting how some trainsets, however, appeared to be completely "salted over" and grimy on the NEC a couple weeks ago. One looks like it hadn't seen the washers in ages (kind of like my car, until this past weekend...)
ThirdRail7 wrote:....The Raritan passengers should tread lightly and not make too much noise...The Raritan riders can make all the noise they want. They're paying for it. We all are. Without us (the citizenry) there'd be a lot of railroaders out of work.
BigDell wrote:There was one Comet salad that came up the M&E yesterday with a spotless Comet IV behind the loco, and then the entire rest of the train looked miserable. The spotless CIV just made the grit on the rest of the train stand out.Hardly conclusive since they are the newest. They don't have (in some cases) decades of constant use.That's the point... I can't imagine why they'd need a good scrubdown for the "new" RVL nonstops. Even with all the salt and grit from this winter, they look pretty decent inside and out. Interesting how some trainsets, however, appeared to be completely "salted over" and grimy on the NEC a couple weeks ago. One looks like it hadn't seen the washers in ages (kind of like my car, until this past weekend...)
ACeInTheHole wrote:that must have been somethingBigDell wrote:There was one Comet salad that came up the M&E yesterday with a spotless Comet IV behind the loco, and then the entire rest of the train looked miserable. The spotless CIV just made the grit on the rest of the train stand out.Hardly conclusive since they are the newest. They don't have (in some cases) decades of constant use.That's the point... I can't imagine why they'd need a good scrubdown for the "new" RVL nonstops. Even with all the salt and grit from this winter, they look pretty decent inside and out. Interesting how some trainsets, however, appeared to be completely "salted over" and grimy on the NEC a couple weeks ago. One looks like it hadn't seen the washers in ages (kind of like my car, until this past weekend...)
Tommy Meehan wrote:Not sure if you're following the context of the conversation, so I'll start again just for you.ThirdRail7 wrote:....The Raritan passengers should tread lightly and not make too much noise...The Raritan riders can make all the noise they want. They're paying for it. We all are. Without us (the citizenry) there'd be a lot of railroaders out of work.
Just sayin'.