by Steve F45
took the boxcar and centerbeam around 3pm. Cought the power headed north before noon. 2 ns geeps
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Penn Central wrote:From a list of railroad wrecks in NJ, I saw this interesting detour:Well you "technically" can't make that move anymore. I believe that connection known as the "Piermont branch" (I think) is somewhat whashed out in the middle, but the suffern end of the connection is still active and known as the suffern industrial (or so I heard). As for the spring valley end it is intact, including a switch, (and there is also an old freight siding intact with a switch nearby as well) I just don't know where the washout begins and how bad it is?
November 16, 1970 Mahwah EL Eastbound freight derailed, blocking all four tracks of the Main Line. Passenger service diverted over what is now NJT Pascack Valley Line and back to Main Line over now defunct connection between Spring Valley and Suffern.
Can't make that move anymore.
mackdave wrote:I remember it well, I was in High School at the time, and we drove up to look at the wreck. The Bergen Evening Record had an article about the detour, if believe. Something like... you should have seen the faces of the locals when the two SD-45's came through with the 100 car freight. They had to get Supervision out to protect the crossings in Hackensack, they were manual gates back then, with a split shift operation for the morning and evening commuter trains.Mark I Video put out a VHS quite a while back of converted 16mm color footage shot on a Saturday in the late 1940's or very early 50's. The NJ&NY was still running one or more trains inbound on Saturday mornings and outbound early in the afternoon, and the trains are shown at various stations on the line. It seems that the crossing watchmen were working a 5-day week by that time, so the gates were not operated at all on Saturdays. The trains stopped and flagged every crossing and then proceeded with the gates up.
Dave Mackay
airman00 wrote:I agree. I don't think a washout would be 1% of the issues of getting that line up and running. It would be quelling wealthy NIMBYs who haven't seen a train behind their house in 30 years. I highlighted the stretch red on the map below.
Well you "technically" can't make that move anymore. I believe that connection known as the "Piermont branch" (I think) is somewhat whashed out in the middle, but the suffern end of the connection is still active and known as the suffern industrial (or so I heard). As for the spring valley end it is intact, including a switch, (and there is also an old freight siding intact with a switch nearby as well) I just don't know where the washout begins and how bad it is?
I know about potential "nimbyism" in the washed out area, but IF you could repair the washout, and NJT does have the authority to do so at any time, well that to me would be great!
Penn Central wrote:From a list of railroad wrecks in NJ, I saw this interesting detour:I remember that event, although I didn't see the train - just remember reading about it. I was in Jr. High School at the time.
November 16, 1970 Mahwah EL Eastbound freight derailed, blocking all four tracks of the Main Line. Passenger service diverted over what is now NJT Pascack Valley Line and back to Main Line over now defunct connection between Spring Valley and Suffern.
Can't make that move anymore.
njsteelersfan wrote:Anybody know what the deal is this morning. Saw a 2 train eastbound looked like it was making all stops. Could have sworn that 1636 passed. Thanks1645 was cancelled at Woodcliff Lake due to mechanical problems. Passengers went to train 1647 and train 1636 was around 1 hour 45 minutes late.