by Gilbert B Norman
Actually, Ms. Bly, the job of rebuilding Budd 22 Rmt "--Harbor" sleepers into 16-10 Slumbercoaches was contracted out to Budd. When the cars were returned, the four 24-8's were surplus and returned to the lessor, which just happened to be Budd. From there, those cars were sold to the NP. Four other 24-8's that leased (3) to B&O and (1)Missouri Pacific for Wash-Texas service were also sold to the NP. This means that the entire fleet, save two cars the B&O owned and sold to a private concern,were in the hands of the BN, which included four cars owned by the CB&Q, on A-Day. The two sold by the B&O to the private concern were "flipped' to Amtrak at what I once learned was for a nice fat profit. Who had ownership interest in the private concern I neither know not nor ask not, or at least would not have on A-Day considering I was then employed in the industry.
Be assured, Mr. JP, the "24" were single occupancy rooms, be assured they were not exactly "spacious" and their paucity of space was compounded by a window the size of a bullet hole.
Incidentally, the Slumbercoaches on all roads except the Central were Pullman operated. I made a "one and only' trip during May 1962 on the North Coast Ltd "all the way' in one. As noted, they were Pullman operated but the NP obs-lounge and Sleeper domes were off limits. The NP timetable covered that point with notice to the effect of "the Dome Sleepers and Observation car are for the exclusive use of passengers holding Standard Sleeping Car space". I was undaunted, and atop my "American Graffiti" uniform of the day (I have been compared to Richard Dreyfus in appearance; also Elton John if I may add) I added a Madras sport jacket (trust me they were "in' back then) with my Pullman passenger check conspicuously placed in the front pocket. After dinner in the Diner, (it was open to all but used even less back then by Coach passengers than is an Amtrak Diner today) I somehow "got confused" and walked to the rear (that's where sleepers were customarily placed in railroad days - exceptions of course) and sat in the Obs buying Cokes (had not quite turned "blackjack") without ever being challenged.
Be assured, Mr. JP, the "24" were single occupancy rooms, be assured they were not exactly "spacious" and their paucity of space was compounded by a window the size of a bullet hole.
Incidentally, the Slumbercoaches on all roads except the Central were Pullman operated. I made a "one and only' trip during May 1962 on the North Coast Ltd "all the way' in one. As noted, they were Pullman operated but the NP obs-lounge and Sleeper domes were off limits. The NP timetable covered that point with notice to the effect of "the Dome Sleepers and Observation car are for the exclusive use of passengers holding Standard Sleeping Car space". I was undaunted, and atop my "American Graffiti" uniform of the day (I have been compared to Richard Dreyfus in appearance; also Elton John if I may add) I added a Madras sport jacket (trust me they were "in' back then) with my Pullman passenger check conspicuously placed in the front pocket. After dinner in the Diner, (it was open to all but used even less back then by Coach passengers than is an Amtrak Diner today) I somehow "got confused" and walked to the rear (that's where sleepers were customarily placed in railroad days - exceptions of course) and sat in the Obs buying Cokes (had not quite turned "blackjack") without ever being challenged.
Last edited by Gilbert B Norman on Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.