Rolling a car downhill

I thought it was because Dutch men were stereotyped as short. The same term is also used in track - a dutchman is a short piece of rail used to fill a gap, or when a rail breaks near the end and you just put another set of angle bars on the break until you can change it out, or bridge the break with one set of bars.

Returning to the air hose dutchmen, I have never heard of them being outlawed but that may well be, that point about their not being attached to the car sounds like something the Federales would come up with.

Sometimes you have a car which has excessive travel on the cushion draft gear, the hose is mounted wrong, or some other problem: every time you stretch the train out the hoses separate and you are in emergency. That gets old in a hurry, especially in winter, especially when it's a ways back in the train. On some roads locos carried a dutchman as standard equipment. It's a darn handy thing and makes a lot of sense, so if they have not banned it yet they soon will

GOLDEN-ARM wrote:(excerpt) ... Named for the Pennsylvania Dutch carmen, from the Reading railroad, and PRR, in the Penn. Dutch Region, of Pa., who originally fabricated them. ...

Great, thanks for quick response -- makes sense.

The Dutch are tallest peole in world so that Dutchman are short is a myth only your girlfriend can confirm or dispute
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060915/ap_ ... est_people

Outlawed, huh? If you can't keep the hoses together, how do they expect you to move the train? I s'pose you could re-arrange the cars and hope for a better match-up.

They call those things "Peanut" hoses out here and a lot of units will have them on board. Good source for nice new rubber gaskets.

We have a different name also, aint as nice as Steels, Donkey D___.

steemtrayn wrote:Outlawed, huh? If you can't keep the hoses together, how do they expect you to move the train? I s'pose you could re-arrange the cars and hope for a better match-up.

Simple, steem, if the hoses dont connect, it means one of them is too short. (a rather common replacement error) All you have to do, is replace the short hose, with one of the correct length. There has GOT to be a well supplied car shop facility, somewhere in the area, say, 400-500 miles radius, from where you are stranded at. Tell that conductor, to start walkin'............

have also heard of them called "dummies", "peanuts" and the name that UPRR doesn't want to use here, either.......

I too have heard that the FRA frowns upon the use of Dutchmen.

I had heard that rumor while working for Guilford. I see them all the time, used to see them occasionally come in on CSX when working for the NYA. Here in Harrisburg on NS, I see them all the time, and a lot of them are new ones. If they were truly outlawed I doubt they would be so common on safety king NS.

Jayjay1213 wrote:I had heard that rumor while working for Guilford. I see them all the time, used to see them occasionally come in on CSX when working for the NYA. Here in Harrisburg on NS, I see them all the time, and a lot of them are new ones. If they were truly outlawed I doubt they would be so common on safety king NS.

Safety Kings? Aren't these the same guys, who brought us "toilet in a bucket"? Preventing personal injuries, with the same "zeal" seen in the nazis, is different from using an item, that may or may not be legal to use. Just a thought......

[color=teal]Safety Kings? Aren't these the same guys, who brought us "toilet in a bucket"? Preventing personal injuries, with the same "zeal" seen in the nazis, is different from using an item, that may or may not be legal to use. Just a thought...... [/color][/quote]

Very true. They also don't seem to treat any of the other departments the way T&E is. I'm not complaining mind you. I do laugh at how they let the remotes get away with murder, but those beauties I think are being discuseed in another topic.

The "static drop" as CSX refers to it was not permited by NORAC, but when I hired on in 2000 CSX training center in Atlanta, taught us the technique. The "dutchman" are utilized by CSX since I've hired on, and before. The one that surprised me was the "runaround hose", utilized on a road frieght where a brake pipe failure accures on a car. (such as a a hole worn in the pipe or broken connection), and a hose the length of a car is attached to the airlines of the cars at either end. "running around" the defective car allowing the train to continue to the next terminal where the car can be left for repairs.

Run-around hoses are great, but too rare.