Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

Moderator: Liquidcamphor

  by Richard_Glueck
 
I am given to understand that LIRR has 6 retired cabeese on the property, waiting for somebody to adopt them, or purchase them. Is this true, and if so, what are the condition of said cabeese? Are any of these r/b equipped? How are the interiors as well as the (undoubtedly vandalized) exteriors?

Where are the cabeasts? Anyone have images?

  by Long Island 7285
 
I seen from the montauk branch some in holban right where they were left from the 4-17-99 fantrip when buffs were invited into holban. C66 wich i rode that day is in the best condition. all othres i beleive from last seeing them in '99 had the ladders choped. one or 2 of them have dedication plates on them. and i think the colors are C66 orange/black 2 blue and orange and 2 yellow and blue hacks. I know GG has a good interior but i dont know about the others i honostly dont remember. but thoes hacks with a little work and some fresh paint can roll tommrow. unless there is other damage in the trucks and wheels from not moveing.

  by emfinite
 
I wouldn't say that the LIRR is waiting for someone to adopt them. There is one that is used on work trains occasionally. That one (51) is in the West Babylon team yard and has been there for over a year. The other 5 are in Holban yard laid up on the East end of 15A track. Numbers are 54, 61, 56, 66 and 69.

West Babylon Team Yard
<img src="http://www.trainweb.org/nyar/51.jpg">

Holban yard
<img src="http://www.trainweb.org/nyar/hacks.jpg">

Interior of Caboose 66
<img src="http://www.trainweb.org/nyar/c66.jpg">

Joe

  by Richard_Glueck
 
At least a few appear to have roller bearings. Does that mean they would ship on rail? Is the LIRR trying to find homes for them?

  by Long Island 7285
 
I beleive all thoes pictured from Holban are roller berring. so there legal for any RR in this countury for shipment, but i doupt LIRR is selling them just yet. and if they are i wana find out.

  by RetiredLIRRConductor
 
Gentlemen... a railroader refers to them as a Hack or hacks. want to see a railroad employee cringe? Refer to one of them as a Caboose! :wink:

  by Nasadowsk
 
Weren't they<b>cabin cars</b> on the LIRR?

  by Frank
 
emfinite wrote:I wouldn't say that the LIRR is waiting for someone to adopt them. There is one that is used on work trains occasionally. That one (51) is in the West Babylon team yard and has been there for over a year. The other 5 are in Holban yard laid up on the East end of 15A track. Numbers are 54, 61, 56, 66 and 69.

Joe
Cool photos. What is the number of the M1 in front of the caboose? It has no number plate on it. Has it been decomissioned?

  by Dave Keller
 
Not to bring up a former thread, NO, hacks were NOT called Cabin Cars by any self-respecting LIRR man.

That was a (ugh) Pennsy term (ugh!) And even though the LIRR was under Pennsy control, you'd think it was Nazi control to hear the LIRR men speak!!! They all felt as if they were treated as step children and joyously celebrated the day that the Keystone-shaped station signs came down off the depots and towers!

I think they donned the gray uniforms with gusto! It's funny, because LIRR president Thomas Goodfellow was a Pennsy man and was liked by many (except railfans and historians).

However, when speaking today with the remaining veterans who worked under the Pennsy management and the MTA, they ALL say the same thing: "Those Pennsy bosses were real hard-a$$es but they were railroad men who really knew their stuff . . not like the management they have today!"

(DISCLAIMER) This is not the opinion of Dave Keller who remains opinionless on the issue as some of his friends are in management, at both the low and high levels. This was the general consensus amongst most rank-and-file employess who lived through both regimes. (END OF DISCLAIMER) :wink:

Joe: Your interior shot is a far cry from what I remember as a "working hack!!" Looks like a private inspection car for bosses. (Which I'm sure is what it's become.) Gotta love the overhead handrail . . . wouldn't wanna faw down and give yaself a wittle boo boo!! :(

Dave

  by Otto Vondrak
 
Every railroad had their own term for the last car in a freight train... caboose, hack, wagon, van, cabin, waycar, crummy... and each was as foriegn to the other as the last. There were no "cabins" on the NYC, there were only "vans" on the CN, and "waycars" on the CB&Q. Call that caboose the wrong thing on the road you were on and you got funny looks like you came from the moon.

-=otto=-

  by Long Island 7285
 
Long Island C66 was sent off the Island and fully rebuilt for the president of the LIRR, I don't know for whom I think Gabraski(?) I heard the story of 66 once before I just do not remember it all. I know when it came back it was never used for it's intended perposes and used on work trains till it was shoved in the whole on 15A track at holban in April 99, if it's been out since I shure as hell would not know.

  by Richard_Glueck
 
My father always referred to teh LIRR cabooses as "crummies".

  by 9C1LT1
 
Hey Guys,

Yes its a Hack, I found that out LIRR Conductor :wink:

I was told C66 was restored in the late 90's for the LIRR president who would use it to tour the system, but that never happened ?

BTW - While passing Holban I spotted three (what look like) ex. B&M coaches, anybody have any info on them?

-Barry
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  by pennsy
 
Hi Richard,

There are some Cabeese saved by the Friends of # 35 in Oyster Bay. There they are being renovated as is # 35 ten wheeler, G-5s.

  by jayrmli
 
C66 was restored by Blue Ridge Rail Restoration in exchange for the former parlor and business car Morris Park.

Jay