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Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

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 #1273773  by OBBranchRider
 
Considering the LIRR's shortage of diesel equipment and the popularity of it's dual mode runs, what is stopping the LIRR from ordering a special run of ALP-45DPs from Bombardier equipped with 750v DC gear?

This locomotive obviously fits in Penn Station, and savings could be realized by ordering at least a semi-off the shelf locomotive, using the existing car body, prime movers and controls, and simply swapping out the electric gear.

Is this more technically difficult than a layman like myself would imagine? Or is the railroad just not interested in spending the money, even though it's current diesel fleet is sorely lacking?
 #1273808  by amtrakhogger
 
R36 Combine Coach wrote:They should have gone for some 30 P32s back in 1998. The P32 is a proven design in daily service.
True, but then politics got involved in building locomotives.
 #1273843  by dowlingm
 
The 45DP is a bit weighty but presumably not having to install a 25kV transformer will take off a few pounds. Is Amtrak looking to rebuild or replace theirs? If replace, a joint order might be precluded by Amtrak and BBD's icy relations.
 #1273874  by Backshophoss
 
The P32dm has become the proven design,if Amtrak goes the repower route with EVO passenger kit,it
might be the easy route,the DE 30 carbody might be a bit tight for a repower.
If MPI and GE join up again for a new dual mode(depending on how well MBTA's HSP-46 does)
figure on Amtrak and MN being in line for them,LIRR will need to be "nudged" to join in by MTA HQ,
instead of finding "their" own solution as they did with "Super Steel/EMD" DE's and DM's :wink:
 #1273898  by 4behind2
 
More liked "directed" into the Super Steel deal.

With "Senator Pothole" up for re-election that year, arm twisting for Super Steel to get the contract behind the scenes was part of the package. The candidate exploited this by using the "look what I did for you" theme in his re-election commercials on radio throughout the State.
 #1273907  by dowlingm
 
ALP45 was manufactured overseas - might be a strike against getting any on LIRR if MPI or Siemens came forward with a US assembled unit. It's a small production number though if it's just LIRR ordering.