by Gilbert B Norman
Three words:
Double Occupancy Roomette.
Double Occupancy Roomette.
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Gilbert B Norman wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:02 pm Well Mr. F-40, I like my privacy too.Yes sir, I agree about the prices. That was the beauty of the Slumbercoach, it was priced at only a few bucks more than coach. Although the bureaucrats nowadays will probably find an excuse to charge more.
My last (not saying final, but I'm through going out of my way to ride, journey was #52(the day Kobe Bryant was killed) - and that was in a Bedroom.
With the rates they charge nowadays - and apparently get, I'm not about to take many more rides (I assure you I don't exactly live "RRTA check to RRTA check" in this life).
rohr turbo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:24 pm While your access to windows was assuredly better Mr. GBN, it appears UA 787-10 #4A still gets at least one porthole.An Amfleet 1 coach has approximately 80 seats.
I think that if Amtrak priced such a pod at 2.5x coach cost (i.e approx. 66% of a Roomette cost), it would net more revenue and be a very attractive option.
Jeff Smith wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 6:07 am All your points make sense. I think though that perception from the traveling public may be different.Here's the problem: The Night Owl as it is now is slated to be an Airo set.
Take the Night Owl. The one time I rode it it was fairly packed. Its market is business folk. But they don’t want to pony up for an expensive roomette for a short trip that’s essentially night hours only. But they might pay for an airline-style overnight first class experience that’s priced right so that they don’t have to sleep next to some drooling seatmate.
Convert a few Amfleets for this, and say add them as additional cars to lengthen the current consist and you could market that.
STrRedWolf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:57 pm Here's the problem: The Night Owl as it is now is slated to be an Airo set.The new Airo train sets will have a cab car on the opposite end of the diesel locomotive and electric pan cars. No wyeing necessary. But it will have traditional 3 abreast business class seating. Amtrak would have to charge 1st class seating fares for a 3 abreast lay flat seating.
Here's a solution: Build said biz-snoozer cars for a new DC-Boston only train line. Then who gives two hoots about Night Owl when you got this Twilight Shoreliner you can snooze in with some more privacy than in coach. Granted, you gotta wye the entire thing...