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 #1180510  by thebigham
 
^^Thanks! I have almost the same info in my notes:

April 5: track pulled between Wellsville and Shongo

April 18: track pulled to Genessee, D-2 heading scarp train on C&PA

June:

WAG still operating 5 days a week to Elkland/Ansonia
#1700 still in service
#1500 and #1800 are still on the property
D2 in WAG shops
D1 loaded onto flatcar and shipped to Mexico

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How was the line scrapped south of Wellsville? Was there a train? This segment was isolated due to a washout near Pusher Siding.

From some slides sold on eBay a few years ago: D2 was scrapping track at Newfield on Jun 18, 1974.
 #1225397  by Cactus Jack
 
As further information as to the scrapping of the C&PA / WAG there is a photo on Page 19 of the January 1975 issue of TRAINS Magazine dated August 25, 1974. The photo shows final slavage along the torn up righ-of-way at Newfield Jct. It is contrasted with another photo on the same page of a meet between the C&PA and the WAG on August 11, 1969.
 #1311207  by thebigham
 
I hiked the WAG trail in September:

The trail is wide and in great shape south of Shongo:

http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219322" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219323" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219324" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; NY/PA State Line marker!
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219325" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; washed out grade
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219326" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; wooden trestle

North of Shongo the trail is overgrown for a few miles and is not in good shape:

http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219328" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; double plate girder bridge
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219327" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; original grade for the first crossing of the Genesee River

A wooden trestle near Stannards is being rebuilt:

http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219329" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 #1343854  by thebigham
 
http://www.wellsvilledaily.com/article/ ... 8/0/SEARCH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Transformation of the WAG Trail nearly complete
By Chris Potter
Posted Aug. 11, 2015 at 7:30 PM

It was about 15 years ago when Ron Abraham learned the state was in line to assume possession of the WAG Trail.
Abraham is a senior forester based out of the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) office in nearby West Almond, and an avid bicyclist. He decided to load up his bike and hit the trail, get the lay of the land while scoping a new outlet for his hobby.

He didn't make it very far — not on two wheels, anyway.

The trail was overgrown with brush, which quickly forced him to drag the bike along the narrow footpath, through bogs and over rickety bridges that were enough to make the heart beat a little faster until his feet were back on solid ground.
The trail had clearly fallen into disrepair since the heyday of the Wellsville-Addison-Galeton Railroad, but the vistas along the path provided a glimpse of what the trail could become.

"I had this great idea of riding my bike down the thing," Abraham recalled. "Well, I road my bike through a little bit of it, then dragged it through the brush, through the wet areas. I tip toed across the bridges. But even then you could see what kind of potential was there."

With a lot of work — plus a cash infusion from the NY Works program — that potential has been turned into progress.
It started with the opening of a pair of two-mile sections on the north and south ends of the trail in the years after the WAG's winding road finally brought it into the state's hands in 2009.

This summer, DEC crews have focused on finishing the final links in the nine-mile trail. Work is currently underway completing the centerpiece of those efforts, the refurbishing of a 120-foot bridge over the Genesee River that will open up a key section between Graves Road and Shongo.

The trail along that stretch has already been transformed. A few months ago the WAG scarcely looked like a trail at all, overgrown with brush. The bridge itself was in a similar state, with weeds and even some saplings growing from its surface.
The brush has disappeared from the trail, giving way to a dirt road navigated by DEC trucks each day. Wet areas have been filled with gravel, several smaller bridges over feeder streams are complete, and the entrance to this section of the trail has a new parking area outfitted with an informational kiosk.
The WAG is back in business.

Community effort

The Wellsville-Addison-Galeton Railroad was originally part of the Buffalo and Susquehanna Railroad system. The branch from Galeton, Pa. to Wellsville was constructed over 1895-1896.

Its business was hit hard by the closure of the Sinclair Refinery in 1963, while Hurricane Agnes delivered the knockout blow in the Flood of 72. The line generally followed the meandering path of the Genesee River, whose raging floodwaters heavily damaged the rail bed. The Wellsville branch shut down for good the next year, and the WAG Trail's second incarnation began immediately thereafter...
 #1343901  by RussNelson
 
I was able to bicycle it end to end last Saturday: http://blog.russnelson.com/bicycling/1439055239.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Had to go through a bit of construction zone, and cross the Genesee bridge on the railroad bridge ties (only one was missing and a few punky), but it will be an awesome trail once they finish decking the bridge.
 #1458767  by thebigham
 
2018 Buffalo & Susquehanna Symposium at Coudersport

We are well into planning and preparations for another B&S Symposium. It will be held on August 11 & 12 (Sat. & Sun.) and hosted at the Pennsylvania Lumber Museum located on US Route 6, east of Coudersport. Mark your calendars now!

The format will be very similar to that Symposium we conducted last August at DuBois. If you attended that one, you will not be disappointed with this next gathering. We will have full access to the Museum which has recently been renovated into a beautiful facility honoring this once huge industry in the Commonwealth. Several meals and snacks will be provided as part of your fee. There are nearby motels to facilitate our stay in central Potter County.

The Potter County Historical Society is presenting this Symposium and they will soon be issuing a brochure with the salient details you need to register. They and the Museum will also soon have notice of the meeting on their web sites. Don't miss this one!
 #1458887  by SST
 
Thanks for the posting of this event. You're penciled in. I haven't been in this region for several years and it will be fun to revisit.