by vince
The model of the crossing reflects as it was in 1950; double track main and the non-gated yard tracks. It was also build before I had access to the ETimetables and the Emery Trackmaps and so the yard tracks are not as accurate as they should be. Sorry for that but I'm not gonna' rip it up to conform to Google.
I'm sorry DogBert, that could not be farther from the truth. I form NO conclusions from ANYTHING opined or drawn from ABC News or any other newsie for that matter.
I detest ALL of them!
There are only THREE things I am considering:
1. The Maximum allowed speed at the location. Stated as 10 MPH
2. The Crossing Rules: Train Stops. 2. Gates Lower 3. Train proceeds.
3. The independent dash-cam recording.
So let's go over what I have stated:
1. The train is OBVIOUSLY exceeding the 10 MPH speed limit.
+++ I base this on a frame-by-frame analysis of the video recording to determine the speed +++
2. The train is OBVIOUSLY NOT following the rules. again, lets go to the video tape (does Warner Wolf still say that? )
+++ This crossing has a closeup activation point that is based on a train crew following the previously described 'RULES' above. +++
As the train was obviously running at some still to be determined speed ( not stopping as required) so of course the crossing activates AFTER the train is in the crossing. Smart electronics can ALWAYS be fooled by a really stupid or asleep human being.
How can you possibly fault/blame/point-finger-at a crossing track circuit that is wired to be activated by a STOPPED train be wrong when obviously the train did IN FACT not stop as required?
3. The independent FilCo waste truck dash-cam recording.
Well! This kind of says-it-all eh?
It was not necessary or proper for you to bring up some supposed facts that FilCo was a former customer of NY&A and of "possible bad blood". You are as guilty as the news organizations when you introduced supposed 'facts' to make your point that are nothing of the sort!
That you did this puts YOU squarely with the people you are complaining about DogBert!
That's it DogBert! NOTHING else contributed to any of my statements. Just these three items I've listed.
vince
Vince, you seem to lack an understanding of what I'm stating:You seem to think that I am basing my point on some talking head news organizations OPINIONS of said accident.
When a news outlet combines one set of footage (that seems factual on it's own - the dashcam) with another (an edited clip showing a crossing gate not working yet cut not to show the flagman), it's obvious that news outlet is more interested in sensationalist soundbites than facts.
I'm sorry DogBert, that could not be farther from the truth. I form NO conclusions from ANYTHING opined or drawn from ABC News or any other newsie for that matter.
I detest ALL of them!
There are only THREE things I am considering:
1. The Maximum allowed speed at the location. Stated as 10 MPH
2. The Crossing Rules: Train Stops. 2. Gates Lower 3. Train proceeds.
3. The independent dash-cam recording.
So let's go over what I have stated:
1. The train is OBVIOUSLY exceeding the 10 MPH speed limit.
+++ I base this on a frame-by-frame analysis of the video recording to determine the speed +++
2. The train is OBVIOUSLY NOT following the rules. again, lets go to the video tape (does Warner Wolf still say that? )
+++ This crossing has a closeup activation point that is based on a train crew following the previously described 'RULES' above. +++
As the train was obviously running at some still to be determined speed ( not stopping as required) so of course the crossing activates AFTER the train is in the crossing. Smart electronics can ALWAYS be fooled by a really stupid or asleep human being.
How can you possibly fault/blame/point-finger-at a crossing track circuit that is wired to be activated by a STOPPED train be wrong when obviously the train did IN FACT not stop as required?
3. The independent FilCo waste truck dash-cam recording.
Well! This kind of says-it-all eh?
It was not necessary or proper for you to bring up some supposed facts that FilCo was a former customer of NY&A and of "possible bad blood". You are as guilty as the news organizations when you introduced supposed 'facts' to make your point that are nothing of the sort!
That you did this puts YOU squarely with the people you are complaining about DogBert!
That's it DogBert! NOTHING else contributed to any of my statements. Just these three items I've listed.
Fortunately, I'm sure whoever is investigating this will get the source video and ignore the news outlet spin - and hopefully look at all the various problems that contributed to this accident.That you even consider news outlet OPINIONS a part of a NTSB investigation shows you are bordering on paranoia. Let's calm down eh?
The dashcam video shows the gates did not activate until it was far, far too late - and that was certainly a contributing factor, just as much as train speed.Baloney! This particular crossing is configured for the train to stop! How can you possibly expect a crossing designed to activate by a STOPPED train operate correctly by a train at speed?
.............. snip redundant ranting/speculation.........................best,
vince