I read in the Chicago Tribune this evening that Metra wants to start running saturday trains on the SWS starting possibly as early as February 2009.
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byte wrote:At one point, it was suggested to pull the necessary crews off the 20 or so Rock Island weekend runs (it was brought up that the RI has the lowest weekend ridership of any line with it)It should also be noted that RI has the lowest amount of trains running on weekends, so of course ridership will be lower with fewer trains. However, RI trains are still busy and I'm sure things will only increase when a 35th Street/Sox station opens next year. I would hope taking service from RI and moving it to SWS is not the answer, tho I support weekends on SWS... I don't think a train on SWS would be busier than a train on RI.
byte wrote:I was in that meeting at Toyota Park in Bridgeview. From what was tossed around, the generally slow progress/lack of funding for the CREATE initiative is the big holdup on frequent weekend service (namely, all the planned flyovers). When/if it does happen next year, it'll be limited to 3 or 4 round trips a day due to the resulting scheduling concerns with the freight lines. That's the part that's due on October 1st - the freight railroads getting something together which shows all the holes in their schedules where passenger trains can be run across the diamonds. Allegedly, the "new start" service increases two years ago forced them to defer much of their weekday traffic (which would normally interfere with SWS operations) to the weekends. Reps from the BRC, IHB, CSX (I think), NS, IDOT and the RTA were there, along with various village officials of the communities the SWS serves. Interestingly, no one from CN was in attendance - this seems a little suprising since the diamond where the NS crosses the Elsdon Sub is a common problem areaInteresting indeed...
byte wrote:At one point, it was suggested to pull the necessary crews off the 20 or so Rock Island weekend runs (it was brought up that the RI has the lowest weekend ridership of any line with it), to which Pagano humorously responded that the municipalities the RI serves might have a problem with thatWhat Metra ought to do is add a few weekend mainline express trains to Joliet on the Rock, that alone would improve weekend ridership...
byte wrote:Interestingly, he also said that there was no reason that weekend runs wouldn't go all the way down to Manhattan, meaning it and Laraway Road might feasibly have more service on weekends than weekdays.Hm. May as well maximize the reach, I guess. Either four-hour intervals, or add another set, then...
JamesT4 wrote:If 2 to 3 train will run per saturday, so what the time frame will be. I guessing that it may be if it 3 round trips that it will be 1 morning, 1 afternoon, and one evening round trips, and when the last train of the day will run, is that TBD.Best bet is that trains will run during the busiest time of the day, which tends to be late morning for inbounds, early-mid evening for outbound on Saturdays. I can see one set making a round trip from Manhattan then back to CUS with another set from 179th making a one way trip to CUS in between during the morning, then the same set up in the evening, with a gap in the mid-afternoon.
doepack wrote:What Metra ought to do is add a few weekend mainline express trains to Joliet on the Rock, that alone would improve weekend ridership...Agreed! That will be the day.
doepack wrote:Still, I can't help but wonder if the potential delays to freights due to SWS traffic on weekends (minimal though it may be) isn't overstated a bit.I think this is the case too, though there are some meager, though valid points. I've been working within earshot of the Oak Lawn station all summer, and can always tell when a freight vs. commuter train goes by. The only freight run I've heard regularly on weekdays lately is the usual transfer of intermodal/RoadRailers from the IHB at Chicago Ridge to Landers (I think that's where they end up). I think they're deferring service to the Beatty Lumber in Oak Lawn as well as the chemical plant down in Manhattan to the weekends, when the locals aren't likely to get in the way. I drive by the Beatty Lumber every weekday and noticed yesterday that a lumber car sitting there all of last week had been taken away sometime over the weekend.
bones wrote:Hopefully the weekend work will go to the extra board like on the Rock. It should according to the way I read the agreement, But you never know.If not it looks like I'll have to go back to the Rock Island. Ewwwww! That thought makes me sick to my stomach.Is this what "bumping" means? Why wouldn't you be able to stay on SW if the crew assignments don't go to the extra board?