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 #1446106  by BandA
 
The court ruling could be a face-saving way for the administration to change it's mind and go back to railroading. Or is that too much to hope.
 #1446108  by BandA
 
http://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.co ... ith-trail/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The end of the article struck me...
[?Tupper Lake?] Village Mayor Paul Maroun said passenger trains would be a good form of mass transport, connecting three major Adirondack villages to downstate and the rest of the country. He has also supported a trail beside the rails, which state agencies said would not be feasible.

“I know that in my heart I always thought the rail should keep operating because I think it’s a way of mass transportation into the heart of the Adirondacks,” Maroun said. “From being a naval officer, you don’t tear up a strategic type of transportation — in fact, in this area, one of the few strategic types of transportation into the heart of the Adirondacks.”
 #1446120  by Matt Langworthy
 
tree68 wrote:Then there's those pesky snowmobiles, who "own" the ROW December 1 through spring...

I suspect you'd see a pretty good fight if someone tried to get trains running in the winter along the corridor.
Fair point. It would be interesting to see if the ski lobby wanted to confront the snowmobile lobby. I'm not sure it would happen.
 #1446305  by ut-1
 
This short video shows the Utica-Thendara train nearing the end of today's run as it passes under a farm bridge in Marcy:

https://youtu.be/8ITcGNfrFD0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Photo is a screenshot from the video.
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 #1446993  by rhallock
 
Nobody ever mentions the fact that a New York ballot proposition would create many new bike trails in the Adirondacks, if approved. If they are serious about bike trails, shouldn't the trail people devote their energies to the passage of said proposition, instead of trying to destroy the railroad?

https://ballotpedia.org/New_York_Propos ... _Amendment_(2017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

"The proposed amendment also will allow bicycle trails and certain public utility lines to be located within the width of specified highways that cross the forest preserve while minimizing removal of trees and vegetation."
 #1447044  by tree68
 
rhallock wrote:If they are serious about bike trails, shouldn't the trail people devote their energies to the passage of said proposition, instead of trying to destroy the railroad?
The only thing they're serious about is getting rid of the railroad. There are a number of individual agendas involved - all center on getting rid of the rails.
 #1447485  by ut-1
 
This short video features views of the "Utica train" in Stittville, Forestport Station and Thendara:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xPeXnRVQ08&t=1s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Photo: Adirondack Scenic trainmen confer in Thendara before their run back to Utica.
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 #1449263  by SteelRail
 
I would appear that the trail advocates are eyeing more than just the ADIX rails for conversion to trails.

https://www.adirondackexplorer.org/outtakes/114882" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A Legal Case Against Storing Tank Cars In Adirondacks

"When Iowa Pacific acquired the line, it hoped to transport waste rock from the mine, but so far the company has been unable to find customers. If it clogs the line with empty cars, Woodworth said, it will be impossible to use it for transportation. In essence, he contends, the line will cease to be a railroad—in violation of the easement.

In fact, the corridor has not been an active railroad for many years. Woodworth said he’d like the state to initiate condemnation proceedings to reclaim its Forest Preserve lands. (The siding is on Forest Preserve.) If the tracks were removed, he said, the corridor could be converted into a recreational trail."
 #1449270  by traingeek8223
 
The state is appealing Judge Main's decision regarding the railroad:

http://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.co ... il-ruling/
 #1449330  by griffs20soccer
 
Once again the trial zealots need to get their facts straight. The line was used to move about 30,000 tons of stone from Tahawus in the last couple of years plus at least 2 shipments of Garnet for Barton mines. So it has not been inactive for years. Don't let facts get in the way of your agenda.
 #1449372  by ut-1
 
Returning to Utica after spending the year in Thendara, New York Central veteran RS3 No. 8223 is shown here crossing Olin Rd, Stittville, late afternoon today. Up front is No. 1508 followed by No. 1502. Four coaches trail No. 8223.
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 #1451101  by CRail
 
traingeek8223 wrote:The state is appealing Judge Main's decision regarding the railroad:
A notice of appeal is not an appeal. They're preserving the option to do so.
 #1451583  by thebigham
 
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Railroading Rambler
Published on Nov 24, 2017

The Adirondack Scenic Railroad acquired two surplus Norfolk Southern passenger cars at an auction held in Roanoke, Va on August 17, 2017. The cars arrived in Utica on November 16th and their first revenue run was on the November 24th "Christmas Train," which runs between Utica-Thendara and return, a 104 mile round-trip.

This short video catches the ex-NS coaches, still in their handsome NS paint scheme, as they head north through Marcy & Forestport on their first trip to Thendara.
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