Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

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Backshophoss wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:42 am Useless links will only allow bidders:{

worked fine for me. The tunnel rehab is going out for bid. Only pre-qualified contractors may bid.

eehiv wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:48 am See below:

https://www.newjerseybids.us/new-jersey ... 306293.htm

Looks like this is a two-step process. Pre-qualification bids were due on 9/30. Actual bids are due on 12/1. Happy to see this finally moving forward.

https://www.constructionjournal.com/pro ... fabc1.html

Not sure what this is. Perhaps a more detailed version of the above? Seems to cover much more work than simply repairing the tunnel, e.g. rehabbing the track bed for 8000 feet west of the portal.

Worth noting that at least as of this moment, https://www.njtransit.com/procurement/calendar shows that no bids have been received for either request.

Does this really mean that NJT is now ready to tackle what I would thing would be one of the more difficult and expensive steps towards moving a bit farther west along the Lackawanna Cutoff, at least to the next planned station?

yep, minus the station building itself, this contract appears to cover the vast majority of the remaining work.

lensovet wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:59 pm

eehiv wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:48 am See below:

https://www.newjerseybids.us/new-jersey ... 306293.htm

Looks like this is a two-step process. Pre-qualification bids were due on 9/30. Actual bids are due on 12/1. Happy to see this finally moving forward.

https://www.constructionjournal.com/pro ... fabc1.html

Not sure what this is. Perhaps a more detailed version of the above? Seems to cover much more work than simply repairing the tunnel, e.g. rehabbing the track bed for 8000 feet west of the portal.

Worth noting that at least as of this moment, https://www.njtransit.com/procurement/calendar shows that no bids have been received for either request.

Looks like the second date got pushed out from 12/1 to 12/16. Still showing no bids for either project.

Still not seeing any bids and the date has passed. Not sure what the plan is there.

I did find this slide deck from October: https://d2g63oyneaimm8.cloudfront.net/s ... on2020.pdf on which it says (pg 23) that they expect the culvert construction to happen in the second quarter of 2021. Time will tell I guess…

DMJM is the only company to submit prequalification? It is a complex tunnel rehab

Have you all noticed the discussion over in the Amtrak threads that Amtrak is proposing to open service to Scranton. So why don't NJT and Amtrak get together on funding / engineering the cutoff.

This is a time and materials available project on NJT That stops at Andover Station, and goes no father
It WILL NOT GO BEYOND THAT STATION TO THE BORDER!! so forget about the cutoff to reach Scranton, PennDOT has NO $$$$$

NJT started work on extending service to Andover in 2011. And 10 years later, the installing of rail and ties still is not completed. If the decision is made to fix Roseville Tunnel (rumored to cost 3x original price estimates), service to Andover is estimated by NJT to start in 2027.

The project makes no sense except as a first step in restoring the rest of the Cutoff. If the remainder is not in the cards, the Andover project should never have happened.

Every step west helps.

Matt Johnson wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:08 am The project makes no sense except as a first step in restoring the rest of the Cutoff. If the remainder is not in the cards, the Andover project should never have happened.

I agree. But no one questioned the need for this project and the north Jersey Transportation Planning Authority said ok to spending tax money on it.

Actually Andover is the only town whose population was growing up through 2010 along this route. So going to Andover is not as nonsensical as it might seem.