by newpylong
They did pretty well with the PS tests. If Pan Am can get their act together they stand to get a big contract.
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dnelson wrote: ...Say what you want about ST/GRS/PAR running the railroad better now than the bad old days that shaped the company's legacy....... The day I'll stop using reoccurring historic facts as a basis for predictions is the day the railroad invests its own money into bringing the entire mainline from CPF185 to Northern Maine Jct. up to a continuously maintained 25MPH, by sending MOW crews out to make repairs right away when needed, replacing the familiar cycle of letting the speed restrictions stack get fatter every day, with the occasional upgrades often being very short-lived.Exactly. As well as hiring crews and acquiring power to handle not only the current traffic, but also potential growth. That said, I really hope the proposed Poland Spring service turns into a resounding success!
dnelson wrote:I wholeheartedly agree, except that since the official name of the railroad is Springfield Terminal, half the power and signs around North Billerica stay Guilford, and Pan Am Southern also being in the picture, it ain't easy.I will address the primary point. "Officially" as per the Secretary for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts the name is "Pan Am Railways" and has been since January 16, 2008. There are other associated entities obviously, but that is the official "name" of the Delaware corporation that operates the railroad(s) as wholly owned subsidiaries and it is also the official "Doing Business As" reference to the corporate entity.
edit: plus Maine Central and Boston and Maine are technically still railroads.
gokeefe wrote:It's definitely confusing, but to the best of my understanding, Springfield Terminal is the railroad that is leasing the operating rights from the technically still existent Boston & Maine and Maine Central. Therefore, if you're an employee of the railroad, you work for the Springfield Terminal Railway Company operating trains for MEC and BM under lease.dnelson wrote:I wholeheartedly agree, except that since the official name of the railroad is Springfield Terminal, half the power and signs around North Billerica stay Guilford, and Pan Am Southern also being in the picture, it ain't easy.I will address the primary point. "Officially" as per the Secretary for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts the name is "Pan Am Railways" and has been since January 16, 2008. There are other associated entities obviously, but that is the official "name" of the Delaware corporation that operates the railroad(s) as wholly owned subsidiaries and it is also the official "Doing Business As" reference to the corporate entity.
edit: plus Maine Central and Boston and Maine are technically still railroads.
At least to my knowledge not a single mile of track has ever been transferred to the Springfield Terminal Railway Company. So other than assets which it may not even own anymore it "merely" has an operating lease on all of the other railroads, an arrangement which I believe continues to this very day.
KSmitty wrote:Pan Am Railways is the brand name, just like Guilford Rail System was. B&M, MEC and PTM own property and equipment, as does ST, but ST also has the designation of operating the system, If we're going to get technical. And that wasnt my point.Actually.... We say BN all the time referring to BNSF where I work.... a remnant of the days before the merger. Also Conrail is still a used named when I work in the NYC area.... The only name I hear that ruffles my feathers is when people refer to Norfolk Southern as just 'Norfolk'. I also hear 'The NS" a lot... not sure where the 'the' came from... There is still a division between B&M and MEC within the company too
I realize the name still exists, even in official uses. So to does Burlington Northern, whose reporting marks and name remain on the rails. Yet nobody is saying "BN or whatever the name is this week" even though the "BNSF" name is only officially a year older than Pan Am's rebrand.
Don't mean to gripe, just seems that those of us who claim to be aware of the railroad, from outside, inside, outside now, formerly inside, etc. should start by getting the name right. I admit, in conversation I occasionaly "Guilfordslip" but here, I proof my posts and any Guilford reference gets replaced, unless I'm specifically refering to a gray locomotive, or a matter of history before 2006.
bubbytrains wrote:It's been years since I used my scanner to railfan, but I recall the Form D was announced as "Form D number G_ _ _ , dated _ _ _...." I ASSUMED the "G" was for Guilford. Was that assumption correct, and also has the format changed in those many years since? Just curious.Its still Form D number G###, but I don't know the origins...
--Alan S.