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  by lensovet
Jeff Smith wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:28 am The high-speed rail authority is receiving $192 million dollars to advance the detailed design.
$192M to advance the design. Insane.
  by Jeff Smith
Lensovet, here's some more insanity: HSR.CA.GOV

Just now issuing an RFQ for bidding on track design and systems.
NEWS RELEASE: California High-Speed Rail Authority Moves Closer to Designing Track and Systems

SACRAMENTO, Calif. – The California High-Speed Rail Authority’s Board of Directors today took another step toward bringing the nation’s first 220 mph electrified high-speed rail system into operational service. The Board approved the release of a Request for Qualifications (RFQ) to industry for design services for track and overhead contact systems (OCS) for the initial 171-mile passenger service connecting Merced to Bakersfield.

“Today’s approval allows us to move forward and get this transformative project into operations as soon as possible,” said Board Chair Tom Richards. “This is a critical step in our new procurement strategy and yet another important milestone for us to deliver high-speed rail service in the Central Valley and statewide.”

The RFQ will be advertised here Nov. 3, with Statements of Qualifications (SOQ) due Jan. 22, 2024, and potential Board approval and contract execution and issuance in April 2024.

With a total contract value of up to $131.2 million and potential extension options, this procurement process will allow the Authority to:

Produce high-level designs for track and systems for the 171 miles connecting Merced to Bakersfield, including detailed designs for the 119-mile stretch currently under active construction within that Central Valley stretch.
Design the track system, including the track structure, OCS, along-track cable containment, across-track ducts, access walkways, fencing, and drainage.
Manage technical and non-technical interfaces with contractors/consultants.
This action comes on the heels of the Authority moving its trainsets procurement forward in August.

In October 2022, the Authority opted to let a previous RFQ for procurement of a track and systems contractor expire due to the economic climate, supply-chain challenges and 40-year high inflation.

The Authority has since developed a new procurement strategy, considering extensive industry feedback and adjusting to program needs. The track and OCS design services contract is an important step in the new procurement strategy.

Since the start of construction, the Authority has created more than 11,000 construction jobs, a majority going to residents from the Central Valley.

The Authority has begun work to extend the 119 miles under construction to 171 miles of double track electrified high-speed rail from Merced to Bakersfield. There are more than 25 active construction sites in California’s Central Valley, with the Authority having environmentally cleared 422 miles of the high-speed rail program from the Bay Area to the Los Angeles Basin.

For more information on construction, visit: www.buildhsr.comExternal Link.

The following link contains recent video, animations, photography, press center resources and latest renderings: https://hsra.app.box.com/s/vyvjv9hckwl1 ... q8External Link.

These files are all available for free use, courtesy of the California High-Speed Rail Authority.
  by lpetrich
NEWS RELEASE: High-Speed Rail Authority to Receive Record $3.1 Billion From Biden Administration - California High Speed Rail
That money will:
  • Fund six electric trains for testing and use
  • Fund design and construction of trainset facilities
  • Fund design and construction of the Fresno station
  • Fund final design and right-of-way acquisition for the Merced and the Bakersfield extensions
  • Fund construction in the Central Valley
Currently 119 mi are under construction with the southernmost 22 mi close to completion, and this will be extended to 171 mi for reaching Merced and Bakersfield.
  by John_Perkowski
[cynicism]Oh, boy, oh boy, oh boy! Merced to Bakersfield![/cynicism]

We will never see LA to the Bay Area.

Mark. My. Words.
  by lensovet
To be clear the 22 miles that are close to completion are close to completion of the currently issued contracts, which are for grade separation and ROW clearing and grading. No track will be laid as that design work has yet to be completed.
  by lpetrich
Yes, they are building the trackway and only the trackway at this time.

Map|BuildHSR shows lots of activity between Madera and Shafter, and no activity in Merced - Madera or Shafter - Bakersfield.
  • The Merced-Madera end will have the wye on SR-152 halfway in between SR-99 and SR-59. Its north leg will go to SR-99 and then to Merced.
  • The Shafter-Bakersfield end will use SR-99 to enter Bfld.
Planning status:
  • With final EIR/EIS: SF - SJ - Merced, Bfld - Palmdale, Burbank - LA
  • With draft EIR/EIS: Palmdale - Burbank
  • Still working on one (?): LA - Anaheim
  by The EGE
John_Perkowski wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:41 pm [cynicism]Oh, boy, oh boy, oh boy! Merced to Bakersfield![/cynicism]

We will never see LA to the Bay Area.

Mark. My. Words.
The Central Valley isn't just an empty wasteland, remember. There's over 2 million people in Merced + Fresno + Kern counties, and that population is heavily concentrated along the CAHSR route. And then another 3+ million in Stanislaus + San Joaquin + Sacramento, which will have hourly Merced-Modesto-Stockton-Sacramento service meeting HSR at Merced.
  by ExCon90
And prior experience with light rail in Dallas and Sacramento, and I believe elsewhere, has shown that once a portion is up and running and people actually witness and experience it there is a lively desire among previous skeptics for expansion to their neighborhoods. Maybe something similar will happen here.
  by eolesen
Well, the State needs to have the money to get that first segment up....

Record deficits are now hitting the State, and probably not getting better anytime soon.

If essential services are being cut, what makes anyone believe CAHSR is going to continue to be funded?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/californ ... 00198.html
  by Gilbert B Norman
Long time conservative gadfly Wendell Cox sure teed off in The Journal.

Fair Use:
Mr. Cox is a senior fellow with the Committee to Unleash Prosperity and principal of Demographia, a St. Louis-area public-policy and transportation research firm.
Surprised, anyone?
  by Jeff Smith
I saw that article. Surprised? No. Is he wrong, though?
In 2019 newly inaugurated Gov. Gavin Newsom declared that because of construction complications and cost overruns, the train would initially travel only down a 171-mile segment between Merced (a 130-mile drive from San Francisco) and Bakersfield (110 miles from Los Angeles). That segment was to cost $22.8 billion.

Then the California High-Speed Rail Peer Review Committee dropped another bomb: The San Francisco to Los Angeles phase would take another 15 to 20 years to build, would cost three times as much as projected, and would be unable to meet legally mandated trip times.
In legislative testimony, Louis S. Thompson, chairman of the Peer Review Committee, put the Phase I funding gap at $93 billion to $103 billion. He also noted there is at least an $8 billion increase that hasn’t been counted in the Southern California segment. “Even with a realistic share of new federal funding,” he said, “the project cannot get outside the Central Valley without added state or local funding.” The Legislative Analyst’s Office agreed.
  by eolesen
Not a single lie or even stretch of the truth in what he wrote.

Just imagine how much more effective that 3 billion dollars would have been in untangling the rails in Chicago or accelerating the Gateway tunnels. Millions of people would have benefited.

Instead, we are building high-speed rails to nowhere like California is one of the Emirates with oil money to waste.

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  by lensovet
I mean, Gateway has already received over 11B in funding from the federal government and in fact got 3.8 of that this past November. And is that really the poster child for effective projects in this country? Something like 20B dollars to reconstruct about 3 miles of existing infrastructure?
  by Frank
I don't take the critics seriously.
  by eolesen
I don't consider Gateway effective compared to other projects, but next to CAHSR its the bastion of value and efficiency.

Gateway as a project is at least justified and necessary.

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