<i>Phil were do you get your 150 000 Lbs number from, other than your imaginairy thoughts. </i>
It's <b>easy</b>
Take an M-7: 125,000lbs.
Add a pantograph and support gear: +1,000 lbs.
Vaccum breaker and gear: +1,000 lbs
Reinforcing the body to hang a transformer under it: +2,000 - 5,000 lbs.
Moving the braking resistors ontop to make room: +500 - 1,000 lbs
Main tranny: 10,000 - 15,000 lbs
Conversion and changeover gear; 2,000.
Low end? 146,000lbs. We'll be generous and round it to 145,000. 20,000 lb penalty to add AC support? Sounds within the realm of believability.
High end? I hit 150,000 lbs on the button. And I've most certainly lowballed a few numbers here. Add another 5,000lbs or so for 25hz support, a hundred for voltage change ability, and frankly, I tend to think shifting the braking grids to the roof won't be 500 - 1000 lbs. And I suspect the main transformer will weigh more, since I'm quoting something on the order of what a Silverliner has, and the M-8 will need on the order of a metroliner's main tranny. Add a few hundred to a thousand to the conversion gear if you want regeneration to the catenary.
Applying a simple filter: An M-7 weighs 125,000lbs. A main transformer for 1,000HP + HEP will be at least 10,000, and likely on the order of 15,000+. That in itself sets an absolute lower boundry of 135,000 - 140,000 lbs. Since the output of said transformer can't be fed directly into the inverters (or anything else), and we're not even including the primary side - another 5,000 - 10,000lbs of auxilarary gear is very believeable.
I'm sticking with my back-of-the-envelope prediction - you'll see the M-8s, if they're built like the M-2s (i.e. married pairs, every axle powered, transformer per car) but based on the M-7's design- come in around 150,000 lbs, plus minus 5,000.