• #4 Red Line Cars 1900-2151

  • Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.
Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.

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  by Robert Paniagua
 
yeah I saw those new Orange Line traincars at Cabot Yard from the Southeast Expressway over the weekend
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
What I'm seeing here is a 01800 pair stripped. Are some being used for parts until new cars are in service?
  by jwhite07
 
01816-01817 have been out of service due to lack of parts availability for at least fifteen years. There is one other pair of 01800s out due to derailment damage as well, and I expect those are having parts borrowed to keep the rest of the fleet intact too. Whether or not the CRRC cars are successful, it is doubtful either pair will ever see service again. The 01800s were among the first subway cars in the US to utilize AC traction, and their propulsion systems are somewhat unicorns. Parts availability for them was a problem starting very early on.
  by typesix
 
Plus GE leaving the transit motor control business didn't help, another reason the 01800s are also to be replaced. What's left of GE's rail business(mostly locomotives) was bought by competitor WABTEC(Westinghouse).
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
jwhite07 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:09 am The 01800s were among the first subway cars in the US to utilize AC traction, and their propulsion
systems are somewhat unicorns. Parts availability for them was a problem starting very early on.
The 01800s are a rare use of GE AC traction (also on NYCT's R110B). The GE AC traction system is a GTO.
GE's 1996 Transit Product Catalog is on Wayback Machine.
  by Head-end View
 
A shame about the 1800 series having to be replaced after less than thirty years . Nice cars these were. Liked them a lot since I watched them going into service in the mid-1990s.
  by BandA
 
Will the Chinese cars become unicorns?
  by jwhite07
 
Maybe not, but by the time all of the production delays, pandemics, failures, redesigns, and accidents are over with, the MBTA will have some number fewer than the original number of CRRC cars that they ordered, and they will be technologically obsolete by then.