• Video: Forging of railcar wheels

  • Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.
Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

Moderator: Liquidcamphor

  by Publius Plunkett
 
What an excellent video! Did you see the copyright date of 1954? That was when America was the preeminent industrial power in the World. That same foundry helped the USA fight and win World War II. American workers, iron ore, machine tools and furnaces.

Now that foundry is probably closed and turned into a nature park. All the work sent off to China, Pacific Rim countries and Mexico, being reimported into the USA duty free because of the WTO and NAFTA. We were sold out by our own Government. The bastards are bought and paid for by special interests and could care less that the offspring of those workers pictured in the video could never hope to obtain employment in what's left of American Heavy Industry.

Not every young person is capable of obtaining a Degree in Himalayan Philosophy and sipping Lattes in Starbucks. Some are best suited for construction, manufacturing assembly lines and trades. Where's the jobs?
  by Commuter X
 
Publius Plunkett wrote:What an excellent video! Did you see the copyright date of 1954? That was when America was the preeminent industrial power in the World. That same foundry helped the USA fight and win World War II. American workers, iron ore, machine tools and furnaces.

Now that foundry is probably closed and turned into a nature park. All the work sent off to China, Pacific Rim countries and Mexico, being reimported into the USA duty free because of the WTO and NAFTA. We were sold out by our own Government. The bastards are bought and paid for by special interests and could care less that the offspring of those workers pictured in the video could never hope to obtain employment in what's left of American Heavy Industry.

Not every young person is capable of obtaining a Degree in Himalayan Philosophy and sipping Lattes in Starbucks. Some are best suited for construction, manufacturing assembly lines and trades. Where's the jobs?
I understand we are supposed to stay away from politics on this board, but this is why Trump is about to capture the GOP nomination by the end of the day.
He has tapped into a angry electorate that is poised to put him into the Oval office
  by Kelly&Kelly
 
Perhaps America's last hope to see heavy manufacturing ever again.
  by Datenail
 
this is why we need Bernie Sanders! The offspring mr. plunket described have been cheated of what is rightfully theirs by the rich in this country. President Sanders will increase their benefit checks, snap, college aid and health care coverage. Mr. Trump will enslave them.
  by Crabman1130
 
I thought I was on a railfan site?
  by Liquidcamphor
 
Crabman let them blow off some steam. Just try to keep on topic.
  by Commuter X
 
Datenail wrote:this is why we need Bernie Sanders! The offspring mr. plunket described have been cheated of what is rightfully theirs by the rich in this country. President Sanders will increase their benefit checks, snap, college aid and health care coverage. Mr. Trump will enslave them.
If he offers free rides on mass transit, then I too will feel the Bern
Unfortunately, the reality is that nothing is free and you will soon run out of other peoples money to buy the "free stuff"
  by nyandw
 
OK, as the OP: Super Tuesday is over: Senator Bernie Sanders is a footnote in history. Political hijack thread abort: Back to our regularly scheduled programming:
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Anyone to add info concerning LIRR wheels: repair, storage, replacement, usage, etc.? For example: Image
MP15ac #157 Wheel storage tracks MP shops view SE c.1989 (Collins-Keller)

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Diesel wheel storage Photo: Steve Rothaug 10/87

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Wheel grinding shop Location #6 at Morris Park view E toward DUNTON Tower 1976

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Wheel grinding shop Photo: Steve Rothaug 10/87

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Interior wheel grinding shop Photo: Steve Rothaug 10/87
  by kro52
 
Greetings,
Very nice video Steve. Just a clarifacation on the term(s) wheel GRINDER shop.... The building in the picture is called a Wheel TRUING building...or as we called it, the wheel truer. There are 3 wheel truing facilities on the railroad, located West Side Yard, Morris Park and Hillside. Historical note: we did have a wheel GRINDING machine in the Round House which actually ground the wheels with 3 ft carborundum grinding wheels. That machine was used up until the mid 1970's, when it was replaced by the wheel truer. In the old wheel shop there were 2 wheel lathes that were also used until the mid 1970's.
KRO52
  by nyandw
 
kro52 wrote:Greetings, Very nice video Steve. Just a clarifacation on the term(s) wheel GRINDER shop.... The building in the picture is called a Wheel TRUING building...or as we called it,..." KRO52
Appreciate the correction, thank you. Folks had ID'd it correctly in this thread photo: Image
1. Yardmaster's Office: Tower added 1945 to provide elevated visibility for Richmond Hill Storage Yard
2. Trainmen's Building: The building housed facilities for train crews awaiting their runs originating from the adjacent storage yard. Men spent hours there eating their lunch, playing cards, napping, reading, yakking with each other and generally just killing time until they had to catch their trains. The building had toilets, lockers, tables, benches and chairs. Info: Dave Keller
3. Car Washing Machine Control House: New 1942 - Controls and some storage for the 55 gallons drums of detergent. Info: Dick Maske
4. Dunton Tower: Formerly “MP” Tower. 1/20/1914. Renamed: 4/23/37 Info: Dave Keller
5. Switchmen's Shanty: The LIRR position also referred to as "UB" Utility Brakeman, AKA Switch tender.
6. Wheel Truing Machine Shop
7. Engine Inspectors Office: Mechanics room for electricians, machinists and a supply room for special oils, repair parts, etc.

I've gone back and corrected the photos and map locations guides to reflect your input. :-) http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/morris ... ispark.htm Nice.
Steve
  by SwingMan
 
The one in West Side Yard is history. Just another office tower now.
  by kro52
 
Greetings,
Thanks SwingMan, I did not know that. Being retired 14 years you miss a lot.
KRO52
  by jhdeasy
 
Interesting photos of the LIRR wheel truing equipment.

As owner of Amtrak certified private passenger car(s) since 1987, I have had my share of experience with having my wheels trued, by Amtrak (at Chicago, Los Angeles and Washington), by Via Rail Canada (at Montreal) and by NJ Transit (at the Meadowlands Maintenance Center); but never by LIRR. It is always interesting to watch the process. The industry's state of the art is equipment that can true a wheelset while it is still in position in the truck. As a point of reference for the curious, Amtrak's current price for truing a private car wheelset is approximately $1,000. When you have the right facilities/equipment in a shop, it is relatively easy to completely replace a wheelset on a car, versus completing a forced change-out on a RIP track or a remote siding, using a crane. Properly functioning decelostats and a relay valve calculated to apply just the right braking pressure for the car's weight go a long way to avoiding flat spots, which are probably the #1 defect (but not the only defect) that requires the truing of a wheelset.