Turning a Walthers Horizon coach into an LIRR P-72
Discussion related to everything about model railroading, from layout design and planning, to reviews of related model tools and equipment. Discussion includes O, S, HO, N and Z, as well as narrow gauge topics. Also includes discussion of traditional "toy train" and "collector" topics such as Lionel, American Flyer, Marx, and others. Also includes discussion of outdoor garden railways and live steamers.
Discussion related to everything about model railroading, from layout design and planning, to reviews of related model tools and equipment. Discussion includes O, S, HO, N and Z, as well as narrow gauge topics. Also includes discussion of traditional "toy train" and "collector" topics such as Lionel, American Flyer, Marx, and others. Also includes discussion of outdoor garden railways and live steamers.
I think Funaro & Camerlingo (sp?) made something similar to that car a few years back. ill dig up my old walthers catalog, and try and find it.
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by Otto Vondrak
You need to start with an LIRR coach, and not a Bombardier "comet" or "horizon" or "shoreliner." Wrong body, wrong trucks, wrong height, wrong length, wrong underbody.
Funaro & Carmelengo makes a kit for a "World's Fair Coach." No need to dig up an old catalog, it's right on the web site.
Otto,
Didn't some of the P70's go to Chicago after Amtrak came?
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by Otto Vondrak
This thread is discussing the LIRR P-72 coach. The PRR P-70 is an entirely different coach, you might want to post your question in the PRR or PC forum.
It looks like a much cheaper alternative could be to start with a Pullman-type core kit from Eastern Car Works or Train Station Products. Actually, since you'll need to make your own beveled ends anyway, you might want to just buy the Pullman roof and floor separately from TSP. I don't know if the roof profile is correct but it looks close. You could either drill and file the windows from a sheet of styrene for the sides, or use a piece of clear plastic and cut masking tape to cover the window locations before painting the car - in other words, just like American Model Builders does with their laser-cut car sides, except you'll be masking them by hand.
If you know how to use computer drawing programs, you can make and print a template to help you position the windows correctly. Fortunately, smooth-side cars like this one with no surface detail are pretty easy to scratchbuild.
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by Otto Vondrak
If you're not too hung up on detail, you could even start with a cheap Con-Cor or IHC Pullman-Standard type of coach, and just build new sides from sheet styrene. At least the style of car would be close. Depends on how much you want to get involved in the project.
