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StLouSteve wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:49 am What about a program where Amtrak shops the V1s and brings them up to V2 standards including installing end of car toilet and removing the toilet bowls from the roomettes? Weren't the V1s built to be modular so they can be updated?Believe it or not, there's a segment of the population that enjoys? having the in room toilet. Personally I find it gross. I think the reason it hasn't been done is because there are enough people that are vocal about wanting the in person rest room.
Jeff Smith wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:11 am Just because you HAVE an in-room toilet doesn’t mean you have to use it.True, but you do have to sleep next to it!
David Benton wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 5:09 pmWhy is there a need to swap modules . just whip the toilets out , refresh everything else , job done.To give the Roomette passengers some replacement place, the plan also included removing 1 roomette and replacing it with 2 public toilets. Unfortunately, the location for that change was to be at the other end of the car from the opening in the car's side where room modules were to be removed.
JimBoylan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:55 pmYou are right but maybe the toilet modules could be installed in the center of the car and leave the rest of the roomettes as is?David Benton wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 5:09 pmWhy is there a need to swap modules . just whip the toilets out , refresh everything else , job done.To give the Roomette passengers some replacement place, the plan also included removing 1 roomette and replacing it with 2 public toilets. Unfortunately, the location for that change was to be at the other end of the car from the opening in the car's side where room modules were to be removed.
Matt Johnson wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:34 pm I was originally a fan of the in-room toilet in the Viewliner roomettes but a 2013 cross country trip aboard Superliners converted me to the opposite view. I do prefer the Viewliner II configuration, but I can see the arguments on either side. Incidentally, in October I took a ride aboard an old Pullman sleeper behind Reading 2102 from Reading, PA to Jim Thorpe and back. (That's me above the H on Hickory Run at the 10:30 mark in this video!) While not operational, the compartment was equipped with a toilet so I guess that configuration has a long history!I would need a room layout to really decide that. The issue really comes up with two people in the roomette.