The "Ocean" VIA Overnight Sleeper

Certainly not the norm for the Ocean which usually runs on time or very close......but a message on the Can-Pass-Rail Group is reporting there were wheel-slip issues with engine # 6445 not loading.

-#15 Backed up to Clark Brook and waited for an engine from #14.
-Delayed again at Mont Joli with engine issues.
-Rcrewed at Ste Florence (Original crew expired)
-Wait for meet at St. Andre (Jct with the NTR freight main from the Maritimes)
-Recrewed at LaPocatiere
-Medical Emergency at St. Charles and met by paramedics at route #279 crossing.

(BTW…..this was #15 that left Halifax on Friday the 13th!!)

gaspeamtrak wrote:What happened to the "Ocean #15" last night after she left "Matapedia" 3 minutes late and lost almost 11:45 leaving "Causapscal" at 10:55 this morning!!!???

Please change your title to reflect Oct 15/17 as other's will be reading this going forward from today.

NCL’s Norwegian Jade towers above the Ocean at the Halifax VIA Station on Oct 18, 2017

Maritime Bus shares the VIA Station and is adjacent to CN’s former Hotel Nova Scotian….now a Westin.

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Besides the Norwegian Jade….. Serenade of the Seas was also in port and viewed here from Revelstoke Park as we departed.

Just book my trip for my vacations (7th trip to halifax, lol) and I noticed that this time, I actually got a assigned seats, usually, even when I hit ''window'' as prefered seat, I don't get a seat (so I basicallt get to choose my own seat).

Since when did you get assigned seats for the Ocean? I took the Ocean 4 times in 2018 (2 round trips, in march, and in may/june) and I didn't get assigned seats.

I don't know the exact date, but when we were on the Ocean in mid-October the SM was saying assigned seating started a very short time before that.

Yeah, I asked to change some seats before I got in the #35 this morning, it's leaving as I type this)

I asked the lady and she said they started to assing seats somewhere in fall of this year.

Assigned seating has been in place on the Ocean since October 10, 2018 (in place on both #14 and 15 departing that day). With the assigned seating line numbering for coaches is now consistently in place, and is consistent with the numbering for Corridor trains - since there is only Economy class, the first coach is numbered as 03 and they work back from there (no 01 as that is used for Business class, and 02 is never used - not sure why, but second Business cars get numbered 91 instead of 02).

I know some people have mixed feelings about assigned seating, but I'm definitely a fan. It means there's no longer a need to line up well in advance of the train with the hope that you can get a seat you want, especially in the Rens where single seats are very desirable for solo passengers. It also means that those boarding at intermediate stops can reliably count on having a seat they would like, rather than being faced with whatever happens to be left (and sometimes no seats together, for those travelling as a pair or group). The only thing missing is the ability to actually select seats online - something VIA has been talking about for years, but will not happen until they launch their new reservations system (still some time off from the sound of it...). Of course assignments can easily be changed by calling VIA or dropping by a station.

I took advantage of VIA Rail's Black Friday sale and booked a trip on the Ocean in late May.

A couple of questions:
1) The consist is renaissance only with the exception of the park car. I booked a room with a shower. Does anyone know when they service the sleeper cars? Specifically, when more water is added? Has anyone heard of the cars running out of water at some point during the trip?
2) How many sleeper cars are on the train that time of year? I am in car 1438, if that helps.

They should not have to add water between Montreal and Halifax because it should travel the entire way in less than a day.
But if they did, they could do so where they change train crews - every 8 hours or so.

I'm embarrassed to admit that after dozens of trips in Renaissance sleepers I cannot recall for sure if they have been given water en route. I think it might have occurred at Campbellton, but perhaps someone else can clarify this. I have never known the water to run out for Renaissance showers even though there are six per sleeper. Nor have I ever had one freeze up during some very cold and stormy trips, although I would not be surprised if that has happened.

I have not had as good luck with Budd equipment on the Ocean, Chaleur or the Canadian. I have had many experiences with the showers freezing up.

I've been on a 'Renaissance' Ocean numerous time over the past 15 or so years since the Rens first entered service.....usually in a 'Cabin for 2' with Shower and have never heard of them running out of water.

Since a Budd Set has been substituting for one of the Ren Consists.....I’ve gone out of my way to make sure I’m on a Renaissance Ocean. But a trip to Montreal a month or so ago.....did find me in an older Budd Chateau ‘Cabin for One’ (old style Duplex Roomette) and it reinforced my thoughts on how much more I enjoy riding a Ren over a Budd Ocean. IMHO…the Rens offer a smoother, more comfortable ride with better amenities. And quiet too…..with substantial solid partitions between rooms. Not the rattling folding partition you find between the Budd Bedrooms.

When VIA started substituting a Budd set for a Ren......single travelers who were used to riding Rens now found themselves in a older style Chateau Roomette (with that toilet in the room!….and all that surrounding carpet!!) where they had originally been booked in a Ren Cabin with adjoining washroom and some even with a shower. There were loud complaints and VIA brought in additional 'Manors' offering more Bedrooms so those who were originally booked in a Ren Cabin would at least have a Budd Bedroom instead of a Roomette. (Cabin for One)

Even the smooth riding Ren Coaches offer 2&1 seating which a co-worker’s GF particularly enjoyed when travelling back and forth between Halifax and Campbellton when going to university. Same goes for the single overnight traveller.

Here's a Travelogue I posted elsewhere for a trip on a Renaissance Ocean last spring:

https://discuss.amtraktrains.com/thread ... tos.74981/

Thanks for the link. As someone who is not a serious photographer I appreciate trip reports from those who are.

It is refreshing to know that some enthusiasts are as fond of the Renaissance as I am. When they were new there was a frequently read attitude that they were no good. That was the party line amongst most railfans, but "non-fans" were more generous in their critique. Most of those who would otherwise be in a roomette were ecstatic. Of course they are not perfect, but I find the pluses far outweigh the minuses.

Twice I have had a change of equipment from Ren. to Budd. The first time was during the transition period when Ren. wsa being introduced. I received a phone call telling me I was now getting a Chateau roomette. I explained politely that my ticket said "double bedroom" and I would like to get what I paid for. After some discussion with a supervisor it was agreed that I should have that.

This summer I was informed of a change in equipment. My wife and I had booked two Ren. cabins with shower. I was informed that due to the shortage of cabins for 2 in Chateau sleepers those who had booked single occupancy would not be permitted to have one. Before I could say: "Refund, please" the agent told me she noticed two people with the same surname in adjacent cabins and assumed we were travelling together. We were offered a "cabin for 3" (drawing room as I still call them) and this was satisfactory. The Chateau car that we had - and the one our friends had - needs a lot of work, not just because it is getting shabby.

Somewhere on VIA's site it states that the Renaissance is to be withdrawn in 2021. Given the slow pace of refurbishment of the Budd equipment I can hope this won't happen. The compromise of the one "mixed consist" is something I can handle.

For my next trip in April I have booked a Ren. cabin with shower for single use and there was no difficulty getting that. I was told the consist is to be similar to what it was on my late summer trip : HEP coaches, one Ren. coach, service car, diner, service car, two Ren. sleepers (line numbers 30 and 31) and a varying number of HEP sleepers and of course the Park car.