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Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.

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  by peconicstation
 
At a flea market recently I found a stack of Trains Magazine's from the mid to late 1940's. It is interesting to read how much excitement there was about passenger trains JUST after WWII, and how the mood changed quickly in the late 40's.

The April, 1948 edition had this feature story.

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"New Haven will abandon Old Colony passenger trains"

Just to highlight, the article mentioned that the New Haven had a clause related to it's recent bankruptcy case that would allow it to drop all Old Colony service if the loss exceeded $800,000. /year. The loss for the period Oct. 1947 to October 1948 was projected at 3.0 million.

Old Colony ridership was listed at being 750,000 per day.

The New Haven would as a "transition" period operate a "limited service " to New Bedford via Mansfield (no definition of what limited would be), a summer service to the Cape (again no definition of what this would be), and 2 doodlebug round trips per day (in the off season) between Boston and Hyannis. The NH could in turn drop this service at any time.

The only government intervention at this point would be assistance to ensure that the close in trackage could be converted to mass transit use.
and....
Quincy officals were upset that their towns character would be changed once it had mass transit service as opposed to train service.

An MIT Professor, and VP of the "Old Colony Transportation Committee" felt that a plan could be put in place that would drop 221 Old Colony Trains per day (how many were running per day??), and would cut the loss by 1.6 mil/yr, and that he felt the NH would "settle" for less than total abandonment.

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Clearly a ton of political tennis was played out between this offical announcement, and the actual Old Colony shut down in 1959 (?), followed by the ironic timing of the bridge fire. If I am not mistaken in the early to mid 1950's when the NH was a huge cheerleader of the Budd Car they actually added trains to the Old Colony routes. When you consider how long it took the MBTA to reactivate just parts of the Old Colony, and all the work yet to be done (and the expense), it demonstrates that surburban rail service should have had some sort of taxpayer support (or government support) even back then. If that was the case we might be talking about high speed upgardes to Old Colony Routes, as opposed to discussing IF MBTA or any other regular train service will return to the Cape (or New Bedord for that matter).

Another note brought up by the article, it stated that an Old Colony shut down would remove ALL passenger trains EAST of the NH Main.
Fast foward to 1969 and the book "Commuter Railroads" by Patrick Doran. In this book's chapter on Boston it discusses the "limited" service provided by the then Penn Central out of South Station. The only service running east of the main line was 2 Rush Hour Round Trips to Stoughton (and single RT on Saturdays). Was this something that Stoughton had to subsidize??

BTW, at that time (1969) the ENTIRE South Station "commuter" ridership was listed at just 5,500./day (24,000/day on the North Station routes).

Ken

  by Ron Newman
 
Does that 5500/day figure include the Framingham-Worcester route, which was B&A, not New Haven RR?

  by TomNelligan
 
The period around 1969 was probably the low point for rail commuter ridership in Boston. New highways, service reductions, and aging equipment (other than the still relatively new RDCs) had driven a lot of business away, and the gasoline shortages and MBTA-funded service improvements of the 1970s hadn't yet come along to reverse the trend.

By the way, Dorin's books from that period, while containing a lot of interesting photos, are not always the best source of detailed, accurate historical information. If you're not familiar with the BSRA's publications, you might want to check them out.

  by dudeursistershot
 
Does anyone know where ridership figures are for each rapid transit and commuter rail station? I've been looking for a while but I can't find systemwide figures.

  by peconicstation
 
Ron Newman wrote:Does that 5500/day figure include the Framingham-Worcester route, which was B&A, not New Haven RR?
According to the book the 5500/day figure included ALL South Station service, including the former B & A line.

At that time (1969), it listed there was 3 Rush Hour Trips in each direction.
The only other passenger train listed was the former New England States that stopped at Back Bay, Framingham and Worcester.

Of the 3 Rush Hour Round Trips, only 1 RT ran to/fr Worcester, the other 2 RT were listed as being to/fr Framingham. Under a photo caption the book stated that there were 6 RT as recent as 1966, and full service (similar to today) in the 1950's.

The only South Station route that was listed as having Full Day 7 day a week service was Boston-Providence. Franklin and Needham Heights are mentioned as having VERY limited off hour service, with some Saturday service, and no Sunday service.

  by peconicstation
 
From the Commuter Railroad Book, this is what it listed as total revenue COMMUTER trains serving South Station in 1969.

B & A: 6

Needham: 23

Franklin: 13

Providence: 39

Stoughton: 4


North Station Weekday Revenue Train Counts were listed as follows;

Wodburn-Lowell: 75

Ipswich-Rockport: 55

Ayer: 38 (with most service running to/fr West Concord)

Reading: 60

South Sudbury: 2

Bedford: 2

Haverhill: 2

Newburyport: 2

  by Ron Newman
 
In 1969, weren't there still some trains to Medway (Medfield?) and Dedham?

  by mb41
 
I am pretty sure the last passenger train to Dover, Medfield was either 1966 or 1967.

  by dudeursistershot
 
Wow, I never realized that there used to be this many passenger trains... Bascially, the T is just restoring all the service that used to exist with all its expansion projects... never realized that...

  by Robert Paniagua
 
The last run on the Millis branch was in 1967, going as far as West Medway. I really wish they continued that line to this day and beyond, all the way to West Medway intact to relieve the burden on the present day Franklin Forge Park Extension.