Kawasaki PA-5 delivery status.

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Being scrapped somewhere in Ohio.

5715 sighted at Journal Square layup.

5734 was on the property last Saturday.

In the second photo it looks like they brought you through the yard. Any idea if they were single-tracking?

so does anyone have updates on the B car delivery status?

OportRailfan wrote:In the second photo it looks like they brought you through the yard. Any idea if they were single-tracking?

I was on the property as a participant in the New York Division Electric Railroaders Association shop tour.

5721& 5723 were on property.

I was on a PATH car recently of the old variety where the Port had place name badges giving the name and history of an NJ commuting town. The badge had been removed (and so I couldn't tell what town was formerly identified). Are those placename badges being removed in any kind of organized way for future use? If you put them all on a wall or something they'd make a cool mural for a future Harrison or WTC station wall I suppose, or can I chalk this up to one or another form of vandalism?

The rumor is that the PA is moving on up to eight-car sets on the NWK-WTC line starting this weekend. Is that just irresponsible clap trap, or is this really happening?

Also, has anyone over there considered designating one set of staircases at WTC as a "down" staircase for the morning rush? I'm talking about teh staircases from the mezzanine to the WTC-NWK paltforms. One staircase could handle all the down traffic, without putting trickles of down people on each staircase gumming up the dominant flow of people on the way up. It's really a mess in there during rush hours. I understand that they are working witha confined space, it's just a suggestion to make things a liitle smoother.

JCGUY wrote:The rumor is that the PA is moving on up to eight-car sets on the NWK-WTC line starting this weekend. Is that just irresponsible clap trap, or is this really happening?

Actually they've been phasing in 8 car trains throughout this week already, so yes, they've been running....

Our police department does the escorts from the GWB on the NJ side. There are i believe 4 more cars coming next week.

I took a ride on PATH yesterday and the results were startling. Last time I rode (in September) there were still plenty of old trains running, and if a new one was in the station when you arrived you could usually catch a PA-1 thru 4 just by waiting for the next one.

Well a lot has suddenly changed in the last two months. Yesterday I did not see a single old train running on any line at mid-day. PA-5's everywhere. As I waited at Newark, checking out the NJ Transit and Amtrak action, I finally gave up when the fourth PATH train in a row was another PA-5. This after riding PA-5's from 33rd to Hoboken, a little side trip on HBLRT, and then another PA-5 from Exchange Pl. to Newark. Then the final insult, having to endure a boring PA-5 ride from Newark to WTC. It just ain't the same, watching only out the side windows and not seeing those timed signals change as the train goes upgrade into WTC. Ya' wonder why they couldn't at least have a tinted window in the cab door like NYCTA's R-160's have. You can see out of them outside the tunnels at least.................

Last winter I predicted, as the new trains were coming into service, that PATH railfanning would be over by the end of this year. Looks like I was pretty close to the mark. I saw what looked like a dead line of PA-1 thru 4's sitting outside the Meadows shops, and a few old trains tied down in the yard west of Journal Sq. station. I guess they're only using the old cars now during rush hours?
Deja vu, just like the LIRR M-7's some years back. There's hardly any front window railfanning left in the New York City area. We might as well hold a wake.

Officially, the "target" date for all older PA cars to be removed from service is by the end of 2011. But at the current rate, it could well be several months early.

Head-end View wrote:I took a ride on PATH yesterday and the results were startling. Last time I rode (in September) there were still plenty of old trains running, and if a new one was in the station when you arrived you could usually catch a PA-1 thru 4 just by waiting for the next one.

Well a lot has suddenly changed in the last two months. Yesterday I did not see a single old train running on any line at mid-day. PA-5's everywhere. As I waited at Newark, checking out the NJ Transit and Amtrak action, I finally gave up when the fourth PATH train in a row was another PA-5. This after riding PA-5's from 33rd to Hoboken, a little side trip on HBLRT, and then another PA-5 from Exchange Pl. to Newark. Then the final insult, having to endure a boring PA-5 ride from Newark to WTC. It just ain't the same, watching only out the side windows and not seeing those timed signals change as the train goes upgrade into WTC. Ya' wonder why they couldn't at least have a tinted window in the cab door like NYCTA's R-160's have. You can see out of them outside the tunnels at least.................

Last winter I predicted, as the new trains were coming into service, that PATH railfanning would be over by the end of this year. Looks like I was pretty close to the mark. I saw what looked like a dead line of PA-1 thru 4's sitting outside the Meadows shops, and a few old trains tied down in the yard west of Journal Sq. station. I guess they're only using the old cars now during rush hours?
Deja vu, just like the LIRR M-7's some years back. There's hardly any front window railfanning left in the New York City area. We might as well hold a wake.

No! I am planning a PATH railfan trip for a weekend around Christmas...Are there any running at all?

My best suggestion is a weekday rush-hour ride. I'm guessing that's when the most trains are running so the best chance of catching an old one. I figure they must press every available car into service during the rush-hours. Hard to know for sure, since there have been hardly any other comments since I posted this story a week ago. You'd think nobody else cared anymore..........

I'm going to try one more mid-day ride in the near future to see if it's still worth the trip without the front view. Still plenty of NJT and Amtrak action to watch at Newark, and lots to see in the Meadows, but without the front windows, I just don't know if it's still worth taking the ride. PATH from WTC-NWK has been one of my favorite New York metro area rides for 40 years, and now it's been ruined just like all the others such as the NYC Subway's Brighton Line to Coney Island and the trip over the Smith-9th St. Viaduct in Brooklyn.