• Hidden third rail streetcar?

  • General discussion of passenger rail systems not otherwise covered in the specific forums in this category, including high speed rail.
General discussion of passenger rail systems not otherwise covered in the specific forums in this category, including high speed rail.

Moderators: mtuandrew, gprimr1

  by mtuandrew
 
The former DC system (Capitol Transit and DC Transit, plus their forerunners) used hidden third rail conduit (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conduit_c ... collection" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, hybrid systems) but the current system uses overhead catenary.
  by ExCon90
 
There is a newbuild system in Bordeaux (3 routes), where the city authorities didn't want overhead wires in scenic or traditional areas, particularly on the bridge over the Garonne. The third rail is flush with the pavement and only energized when a car is actually over it; I don't know whether it's by induction or actual contact with a shoe. There were some bugs, but they seem to have been straightened out.
  by dowlingm
 
The Bordeaux system is Alstom's APS.
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Bombardier has a system called PRIMOVE which uses induction. I think there is at least 1 or 2 others.

The problem for me with these systems is the implied vendor lock-in.
  by Myrtone
 
The solution to the problem of vendor lock-in is the licence the power supply technologies out to other manufacturers.
  by Ken W2KB
 
Myrtone wrote:The solution to the problem of vendor lock-in is the licence the power supply technologies out to other manufacturers.
Why would the owner of the technology not want to keep the monopoly for the life of its patent? It can leverage the patent to be the sole-source vendor.
  by Myrtone
 
Because that might discourage others for adopting this system.