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hs3730 wrote:Governor Cuomo released a promotional video for the new station on 8/17: Moynihan Station VideoWow ...
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hs3730 wrote:Governor Cuomo released a promotional video for the new station on 8/17: Moynihan Station VideoWow ...
EuroStar wrote:Actually, it's really only useful for Amtrak and LIRR, as there is no access to tracks 1-4, of which NJT exclusively uses. And since the LIRR has better access from the original Penn Station, it's only useful for Amtrak.frequentflyer wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/cuo ... -1.3420953Yes, the post office sits above the west ends of most platforms. It is good to see something finally being done. Unfortunately they are building the station for the wrong railroad. Given the location the natural users are NJTransit and Amtrak, not LIRR.
Does the old Post Office sit above Amtrak's tracks? If not, how is that going to work?
frequentflyer wrote:So does the new Moynihan Station sit over Amtrak's tracks or not? From the articles I am seeing on this, the answer is not good.Moynihan Station sits over the railroad tracks. Just not all of them. As it has been pointed out before, the platforms for tracks 1-4 do not even reach much under 8th Avenue. The platforms for some of the high numbered tracks, 19-21, do reach completely under 8th Avenue, but not much beyond, so direct escalators/stairs to them from the new train hall cannot be reasonably build. For 1-4 and 19-21 the best you can do is the West End Concourse (WEC) as it currently exists. It appears that NJT commuters do not utilize the WEC for departures because if their train happens to be on one of tracks 1-4 they cannot reach it from the WEC. I suspect that LIRR commuters will feel the same -- why wait in the new train hall if your train can be on one of 19-21 and you cannot reach those directly from the new train hall? Isn't it easier to must wait inside the WEC anyway? As Amtrak trains practically never use tracks 1-4 and 19-21, Amtrak riders might find the train hall convenient and also less crowded /more pleasant than the existing waiting areas.
frequentflyer wrote:
So does the new Moynihan Station sit over Amtrak's tracks or not? From the articles I am seeing on this, the answer is not good.
trainhq wrote:(although the inscription on the top, "..neither rain nor hail nor dead of night shall stop these carriers from their appointed rounds..." would not necessarily apply to Amtrak (or the LIRR!)). .Is that ever true!!!! (As those of us who are around every time a blizzard is predicted know all too well)
hs3730 wrote:Governor Cuomo released a promotional video for the new station on 8/17: Moynihan Station VideoThis is practically his campaign for President:). Any idea who provided 600 billion in private money and what they are getting for it? I noticed that NJT is no where in the picture. I guess NJ residents are left to enjoy the exiting station...
Defiant wrote: This is practically his campaign for President:). Any idea who provided 600 billion in private money and what they are getting for it? I noticed that NJT is no where in the picture. I guess NJ residents are left to enjoy the exiting station...The NYT doesn't have to find a way to pay for its proposal, the governor and mayor do.
Anyone knows what is in the actual Post office building now? The actual Post office takes up no more than 20% of the building area. Wouldn't whoever or whatever occupies the rest of that building have to move?
I wonder why if they go through the trouble of removing the floor slab, they don't open up the actual train tracks to light and make them visible from everywhere. That is what pretty much all European countries do; not sure why this is not done here.
With the presented design, the train tracks will still be in the darkness, from what I see. That is a major shortcoming, IMHO.
My preference would've been top move MSG to the top of Post Office building and then rebuild the actual Penn station. Similar to what NYT advocated earlier this year. But I guess Cuomo went for instant gratification...
Defiant wrote: I noticed that NJT is no where in the picture. I guess NJ residents are left to enjoy the exiting station...NJ hasn't contributed funding, not even funding for a tracks 1-4 WEC. They're being left out on purpose. However, the video mentions renovating existing LIRR spaces to be more open once the new concourse opens - the same could be done to the NJT/Amtrak space, building a new high-ceiling waiting area. I'm not holding my breath.