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Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

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 #1302485  by tj48
 
eehiv wrote:The CMRR now has 2940, 2949 (formerly 2977) and 2962. We are very pleased to have three identical coaches to work with.

Interestingly, the 2940 and 2962 have type 26 brake valves, but the 2949 has D22 brake valves. Anyone know why there is a difference?

EH
Forgive me but I must have missed something somewhere. I knew about 2 coaches, when did you folks purchase a third?
 #1302905  by o484
 
New Hope & Ivyland has 7.

2804
2805
2816
2817
2820
2826
2834

All 7 of them are out of service and were acquired around 14 years ago. Three of them, 2816, 2817 and 2834 are painted in NH&I livery and one of them (2817) had its interior stripped and converted into a 3D maze for this past Halloween season.
 #1304707  by jhdeasy
 
I've started a roster for the disposition of the Pullman Standard P72 and P75 cars, which I have made available online at

http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/ ... lasses.pdf

I compiled this roster from various internet discussion threads here at railroad.net, other websites, online photos and emails received from various people.

Corrections and updates are welcome.
 #1324919  by dlandw
 
I guess my post about a pair of ex-LIRR MP coaches on the south shore of the St. Lawrence near Québec City would have been more appropriate here than in the "Ping Pong Coach in Indiana" thread, but I discovered the other thread first. :)

Here is a link to my post in that thread:
http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopi ... 5#p1324827" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'll check in on them next time I'm back there, and possibly provide some photos and details if I'm able.

-Al "dlandw"
 #1325191  by dlandw
 
Click on the link below, which will take you to the exact location of the adjacent business on Google Maps.
Click on Street View, then pan around 180° until you see the coaches.

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Cazes+ ... 38d73384b1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They are Zip cars -- sad to see them deteriorate. Now, the real question -- where did the FA2 painted in the same livery end up? I think I saw something about it in Railpace at one point, but I don't remember what happened to it.

- Al "dlandw"
 #1325203  by emfinite
 
Pack #616 went to New York & Greenwood Lake Railway and resides in Passaic, NJ at NYGL headquarters. It was purchased by them with plans to use it on a dinner train, but the idea never took off.
 #1325508  by jhdeasy
 
dlandw wrote:
Click on the link below, which will take you to the exact location of the adjacent business on Google Maps.
Click on Street View, then pan around 180° until you see the coaches.

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Cazes+ ... 38d73384b1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They are Zip cars -- sad to see them deteriorate.

- Al "dlandw"
Thank you "dlandw" Al. Two former LIRR Zip cars (MP75c or MP75T) and one former CN 1954 baggage car are visible in the Google view. My roster says this failed tourist train owned the former LIRR 2709, 2722 and 2841.

A couple of years ago, when I was visiting St. Anne de Beaupre on the north shore of the St Lawrence River about 15 miles east of downtown Quebec City, I observed some evidence of a dinner/excursion train that may have operated on the tracks that passed between the basilica and the river. Was that the route of the defunct Train Touristiques de Chaudiere-Appalaches?
 #1325662  by dlandw
 
jhdeasy wrote:A couple of years ago, when I was visiting St. Anne de Beaupre on the north shore of the St Lawrence River about 15 miles east of downtown Quebec City, I observed some evidence of a dinner/excursion train that may have operated on the tracks that passed between the basilica and the river. Was that the route of the defunct Train Touristiques de Chaudiere-Appalaches?
No, that was the Train du Massif du Sud, which is owned and operated by the ski hill of the same name. It operates between the eastern outskirts of Québec City (near Montmorency Falls) and La Malbaie, with a few shorter turns at Baie-St-Paul. They use Alco power (RS18s, I believe) and several Colorado Railcar bi-level coaches and dining cars.

I don't recall the exact route of the Train Touristique de Chaudière-Appalaches, but I believe it ran along a portion of the former Québec Central route between Vallée-Jonction and Sherbrooke.

Au plaisir,
Al "dlandw"
 #1400347  by jhdeasy
 
I've just discovered another survivor of the LIRR 72/75 fleet. The Wisconsin Great Northern Railroad (WGN) in Spooner WI has rebuilt one of the converted push-pull coaches into the chapel car EVERLASTING, and they offer weddings onboard The Great Wedding Train.

http://www.greatweddingtrain.com
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2119987
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1695278
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1031343
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2627031

Unfortunately, there are no good clues to the car's former LIRR numbers.
 #1400369  by jhdeasy
 
Thank you, I agree it is a former LIRR car and I have added the car to my roster of 72/75 survivors. Here are a few recent photos of the car.

http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMJ6 ... t_Smith_AR

According to the rosters I have, LIRR did not own a car numbered 2557, so we don't know its original or final LIRR number.
 #1429266  by jhdeasy
 
Stone Mountain Railroad 1867 is probably the former LIRR 2867, while Stone Mountain Railroad 1871 is probably the former LIRR 2871. Both cars are looking quite forlorn and neglected; I think a date with the scrapper is more likely than a new owner providing a new home.

http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/detail.asp?id=2654

http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/detail.asp?id=2655

Updated roster of disposition of former LIRR P72 and P72 classes is available at http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/ ... lasses.pdf

Correction and updates are always appreciated.
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