• Amtrak to shut down track 3 from BBY to Read, 4 days in June

  • Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.
Discussion relating to commuter rail, light rail, and subway operations of the MBTA.

Moderators: sery2831, CRail

  by sery2831
 
At the same time of the bridge work in CT, they are planning a huge 4 day maintenance blitz on corridor. Sounds like a really good plan.

  by theinsider
 
Yeah it actually makes sense. Must be a mistake :-D

  by CSX Conductor
 
It will be cool to watch the tie laying machine in action again. I got some pics of it when they replaced the first batch of defective ties back in the early 1990's.

  by acela 2036
 
That should be a good site seeing the NEC be shut down for a few days

  by 130MM
 
CSX Conductor wrote:It will be cool to watch the tie laying machine in action again. I got some pics of it when they replaced the first batch of defective ties back in the early 1990's.
I don't know this to a certainty, but I don't count on seeing the TLM during that time period.

DAW

  by Robert Paniagua
 
What bridge in CT are they doing? Also, this could create for quite a mess for all MetwoWest Southside trains except Framingham/Worcester. Stoughton/Providence, Franklin and Needham trains will be in a bit of trouble so that could mean a potential Midland Route detour for select Providence/Stoughton trains and the remaining Franklin trains to alleviate congestion.

  by theinsider
 
They are replacing the Thames River bridge between New London and Groton. It is being covered on the Amtrak Forum

With no Amtrak trains running those days it should make things a little easier for the commuter trains. As the article states Ruggles and Hyde Park will be affected. I would think that most inbounds will by pass Ruggles and they can take the Orange Line back. At Hyde Park maybe they can put temporary wooden cutput platforms between track 1 and 3. The fact that only 2 of the days are weekdays should help as well, at least it is not all 4 days.
Last edited by theinsider on Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

  by boatsmate
 
Robert,
they are going to replace the lift span on the Groton/ New London Draw. THey need to remove the 1 million pound counter wait and then remove the actual old lift bridge section and float a new vertical lift into place. when done it will look simuliar to the Cape Cod Canal train bridge.


This shut down is short compared to the amount of time the river will be closed to vessel traffic.

  by MBTA F40PH-2C 1050
 
how much is the ridership out of hyde park? is this station heavily used? every time i have used the T, when stopping at hyde park, only a few people get on or off, i dont think the MBTA will put wooden platforms out, the T will probably make people use bus connections to get to commuter rail

  by Ron Newman
 
Fairmount and Hyde Park stations are a reasonable walk from each other. It would make sense to just shift all scheduled Hyde Park stops to Fairmount temporarily.

  by paulrail
 
If you had to take a train to New York during the NEC interruption, couldn't one take the Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited to Springfield and then change to a local Amtrak train bound for New Haven ? (and ultimately, to New York). I know,...it would take "forever" to get to NYP.

What was the name of the only other Amtrak train to Springfield and then it turned south for New Haven and New York ? Was it the Bay State or the Patriot ? What year was this train abolished ?

Paul

  by sery2831
 
There is a discussion about this on the Amtrak forum. Please keep the questions about Amtrak service to that forum please. We can discuss the impact of this project on the commuter rail though.

  by apodino
 
I was going to say that the last time Hyde Park station was closed, trains stopped at the rarely used NEC platforms at Readville. The only problem with that though is tracks 1 and 3 don't merge until just past the platforms, and I believe this is part of the Read interlocking (Which primarily serves as the branch off point for Franklin trains, but is also where the Midland route rejoins the NEC and the other branch merges with the NEC spur and continues to franklin.

I have seen the wooden planks used in the past for something like this at Hyde Park, and I imagine something similar would be done here. The tracks are double signaled so they could theoretically run some outbound trains on track 2, but the last crossover before the station is Forest interlocking, right near Forest Hills, but it would only be a two block stretch that would be affected. Fairmount station is not far as you mentioned. The other thing to note is the 32 bus serves Cleary Square, right near the station, and not to turn this into a bus thread, but the 32 bus is one of the most heavily traveled bus routes in the entire MBTA system, with direct connections to the Orange Line. So there are plenty of options anyways, even if Hyde Park (Which does see somewhat decent ridership, but its in need of repair being 20 years old now) is shut down for a couple of days.

  by paulrail
 
The thread about the bridge replacement on the Amtrak Forum is locked.

However, I suppose Amtrak could have gotten an agreement with the New England Central RR to use their freight tracks from New London to Palmer and then run from Palmer to Boston. The line runs along the west bank of the Connectcitut River. right past the Mohecan Sun Casino! :-)

Naw,....this would be way too long a trip tim wise anyway, since freiht trains are quite active on this line and there would be too much delay time.

Paul