Acela II (Alstom Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Was the train set that came down from Hornell about two weeks ago set #4 or #5?
Thanks
Andy

The recent one was the #4th set. #5th already in production and expect to be delivered by end of the summer and final #6th by end of the year

I saw 5 complete sets in the 30th street yard this weekend

The question now, as it looks like we're getting close to actually running the equipment, seems to be: Are there any issues that have not been resolved yet on these trainsets?

A fellow rail enthusiast found an Acela II set at WAS (Washington DC Union Station) since Sunday. So they may actually have more sets than we know about.

Clearly I’m not spending enough on intelligence…

How likely is it that we’ll see a “soft launch” of at least three of the Avelia sets in a Regional timetable slot? Considering how long these trains have been idled for testing and evaluation I could see the marketing department itching to get them into public use and the operating department concerned about breakdowns and delays and problems impacting the timetable if the Avelia are immediately set to work on an Acela timetable slot.

It seems logical to me that putting them into use in place of a Regional train will alleviate both sides’ concerns; it will allow them to finally start moving the marketing needle whilst also ensuring that any last-second problems caused by “contact with the enemy” that is regular diagrammed use don’t cascade into a massive breakdown of services.

The question would be if they have enough personnel to run the trains. I don't see them running in a Regional but more of an extra slot for the Acela's until the teething problems are resolved.

TheOneKEA wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 5:08 pm How likely is it that we’ll see a “soft launch” of at least three of the Avelia sets in a Regional timetable slot? Considering how long these trains have been idled for testing and evaluation I could see the marketing department itching to get them into public use and the operating department concerned about breakdowns and delays and problems impacting the timetable if the Avelia are immediately set to work on an Acela timetable slot.

It seems logical to me that putting them into use in place of a Regional train will alleviate both sides’ concerns; it will allow them to finally start moving the marketing needle whilst also ensuring that any last-second problems caused by “contact with the enemy” that is regular diagrammed use don’t cascade into a massive breakdown of services.

We aren’t even close to seeing these things in service…. They haven’t been cleared to run over 90 mph in non testing moves for starters, and T&E training on them hasn’t been put into place yet minus a select few people that were given a basic overview to move them. Every set has to undergo burn in testing up and down the corridor as part of the acceptance process.

Four transits were at Penn Coach Yard Wednesday morning at 10 o'clock.

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@8th Notch You think they’ll meet the fall 2023 launch or will they be delayed again?

Mr. Brotherhood of Railway and Airline Clerks Dude, I think the talk is now '24 or even '25.

Simply because you observed, and Mr. Vogel photographed, does not mean Amtrak has accepted any of those sets.

KTHW wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 10:22 am I saw 5 complete sets in the 30th street yard this weekend

1 of them is the prototype set. The other 4 are production sets.

Bracdude181 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 12:35 pm @8th Notch You think they’ll meet the fall 2023 launch or will they be delayed again?

From what I'm hearing a 23 launch is now off the table.

Messrs. BRAC (Dude) and BLE (Acela 150), don't mean to talk politics, but I'd be thinking of a Jan 20, 2025 commencement with Joe, after coming to his senses and withdraws or is defeated, making a farewell trip on such to Wilmington.