Depends. The customers and carloads they're giving up on the WI/MI trackage doesn't come close to covering the overhead.
Could be a totally different mix elsewhere.
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Gilbert B Norman wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:32 amMr. Norman: I don't see CSX justifying access to KC beyond a longer haul than Chicago. It is a question for others with more knowledge than I.NotYou wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:29 pm Do CN or CSX want access to Kansas City? Could see CP agreeing to sell the line to one of them to appease them during the merger approval process.Mr. Not You, how do you foresee Chessie justifying access to Kansas City? I cannot see how she is adversely affected by CP-KCS.
CN; you already have the most direct "Lakes to Gulf" routing to your name. Mexico? Remember that is a franchise granted by the Mexican government. They are free in about fourteen years to take it back and again get into the railroad business themselves. Time to stop being a "sore loser".
I have to wonder if Warren is playing the "long game". When the franchise is up, and especially if CP is perceived to have mismanaged it, "Buffet's New Santa Fe" sweeps in.
Only rub; neither he nor I will be around to see it.
justalurker66 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:13 pmDon't forget CN's Duluth -> Chicago lines are almost all former Wisconsin Central lines which were former Soo (CP) lines. CN has already purchased a lot of the connecting short lines and regionals of value: WC, EJ&E, IC, sure I am missing some.Shortline614 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:10 pmSidenote: If I were CN right now I would be buying up every podunk shortline and regional both railroads connect with to starve CPKC of carload traffic.Which would be the opposite of selling 650 miles of railroad in northern Michigan and Wisconsin to Watco?
CN doesn't want to deal with carload end users.
roberttosh wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:24 pmThat is certainly a ways off but definitely a distinct possibility down the road.I don't see another Class 1 merger down the road unless one or more of the Class 1 railroads fails and would be shut down if not merged.
Bill Stephens of Trains Magazine writes:
The operational plan is “superficial,” UP says, and boasts that CPKC will help alleviate congestion in Chicago. “However, the Operating Plan shows the proposed transaction will actually increase the amount of rail traffic moving through Chicago,” UP wrote. “Indeed, some of the traffic Applicants plan to move through Chicago would be [the] result from diversions of traffic that Union Pacific currently interchanges with eastern railroads outside Chicago.”
UP argues that the STB must reject the application as incomplete and order CP and KCS to refile more detailed paperwork that also includes a service assurance plan.