• Silverliner V on the MFL

  • Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.
Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

Moderator: AlexC

  by Bill R.
 
Apparently CANNOdesign thinks so!
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  by Pensyfan19
 
Where is this proposed building?
  by JeffK
 
Bill R. wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:57 am Apparently CANNOdesign thinks so!
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Looks like that ought to be CANNOTdesign :P

Ya gotta wonder whether some of these people have done any research beyond grabbing the first stock image from a Google search. NBC10 had a graphic with the NHSL connected to the RRD, the Norristown Times-Horrible (OK, Times-Herald) regularly uses the same SL-II pic to illustrate SEPTA stories, but my fave was a rendering of the 40th St. trolley portal with a Brilliner in full PTC livery emerging from the rehabbed portal. Yeah, they existed, but there were only 3 and they were scrapped in the early 1950s ...

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  by PHLSpecial
 
Ahhh so the MFL is switching to standard gauge , right, Right? :P
  by JeffK
 
PHLSpecial wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:57 am Ahhh so the MFL is switching to standard gauge , right, Right? :P
But no catenary ... auxiliary shoes, maybe?
  by MACTRAXX
 
BR and Everyone:

Interesting artist's rendering of these two former bank buildings - on the SW corner of Front and Norris Streets
north of Berks Station on the MFL. The regentrification of Fishtown moves northward...

I not only noticed the S5 on the broad-gauge MFL - note the 70s or 80s vintage pickup truck with a design not
likely seen in an urban environment - and the 80s/90s Ford Bronco (?) under the el structure - with the correct
shade of light blue paint on the el structure supports.

The other posted rendering shows the Frankford Elevated with two wood-tied tracks without the under running
third rail that looked like that it was constructed or placed right over the direct-fixation tracks on the structure.
For the record before renovation the Frankford Elevated had wood half block ties set in concrete primarily.

Silverliner 5 cars not only can not run on the MFL with the different track gauges - they would be too long for
the sharp curve north of York-Dauphin Station (Front Street to Kensington Avenue) and perhaps be too tall for
the Market Street Subway tunnel - with its block wood ties atop the floorway and no 11KV overhead with any
kind of adequate clearances. The RRD MU car fleet may be too heavy anyway for the MFL elevated structures.

How did the artists come up with the vehicle types used in this rendering? Good Question...MACTRAXX
  by NotYou
 
I make a living working in a very specific technical job, it is easy to smell out fakes / outsiders and dump on them. In Philadelphia transportation is part of government which means political which means everyone which means lowest common denominator.

Several regional rail lines run elevated, so seeing an elevated silverliner v in Philadelphia is not unreasonable. Lived in Philadelphia for 15 years and now commuting there. If a person says they take the train in it could mean any-nonbus method of transit of which there is a number in Philadelphia: PATCO, amtrak, SEPTA regional rail, multiple connections via disparate SEPTA services, etc.

Dumping on a sketch someone was commissioned to make seems like the least advantageous attack.
  by PHLSpecial
 
MACTRAXX wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:34 pm Silverliner 5 cars not only can not run on the MFL with the different track gauges - they would be too long for
the sharp curve north of York-Dauphin Station (Front Street to Kensington Avenue) and perhaps be too tall for
the Market Street Subway tunnel - with its block wood ties atop the floorway and no 11KV overhead with any
kind of adequate clearances. The RRD MU car fleet may be too heavy anyway for the MFL elevated structures.
To bad no one a hundred years thought that building skinny tunnels is not best idea. Now we are stuck with the Pennsylvania gauge and tunnels that are way to small. Shame that the sharp curve at York-Dauphin cant be straighten a little and have bigger tunnels so that Septa can at least buy something off the shelf. Also I hope we can get lighter trains in the future or keep at the same weight. These trains are getting heavier and heavier.