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andrewjw wrote: It says their are staircases to platforms 3, 4, 5, 6, serving tracks 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12: platform i serves tracks 2i-1 and 2i.I stand corrected, thank you.
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andrewjw wrote: It says their are staircases to platforms 3, 4, 5, 6, serving tracks 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12: platform i serves tracks 2i-1 and 2i.I stand corrected, thank you.
SecaucusJunction wrote:Is there any way to extend the platforms or create a connection to the new corridor? Seems silly they can't connect the 4 tracks.See my post in the Amtrak thread:viewtopic.php?f=46&t=65090&start=600#p1436015
jamesinclair wrote:The last time I recall NJT adding service was when they (finally) agreed to bring service to Montclair on weekend. And even then, it was only to Bay Street, and only a shuttle service. With weekend Montclair service direct to NYP, I'd expect boarding to increase to over 100k.EuroStar wrote: NJTransit boardings at Penn Station per year:Usually this calls for added service. Instead, NJ Transit cut some late night options last year.
2014 -- 87,130
2015 -- 92,312
2016 -- 94,859
What was the last time NJ Transit ADDED to the schedule?
EuroStar wrote:Yes, it seems the current corridor wasn't extended far enough south to even add the stairs for tracks 1-4. They'd require a unique setup to be able to cross under the 8th Ave subway, since tracks 1-4 don't extend westward as much as the other tracks in NYP.SecaucusJunction wrote:Is there any way to extend the platforms or create a connection to the new corridor? Seems silly they can't connect the 4 tracks.See my post in the Amtrak thread:viewtopic.php?f=46&t=65090&start=600#p1436015
Unfortunately for these connectors to be built, NJT will need to pony up the cash and NJT is worse than broke, so I do not expect to see said connectors being built in the next 40 years. If Penn South ever gets built, then you will likely see those connector built, but Penn South will not happen in my or your lifetime.
SecaucusJunction wrote:What would it take to extend the 1-4 platforms?A. Something on the order of $20-30 million (estimate from the fact that the new enlarged concourse that just opened had a cost exceeding $100 million)
SecaucusJunction wrote:What would it take to extend the 1-4 platforms?The platforms for tracks 1-4 end further east than all the other platforms - they don't extend under the 8th Ave subway (which runs over Penn's tracks below 8 Ave). So stairways cannot simply be dropped from the current West End Concourse to those tracks.
JamesRR wrote: The WEC is only really useful for NJT riders exiting and heading west or to the 8 Ave subway. Those departing from it would need to know ahead of time their train is on track 5 or higher.For many commuters that is not difficult.
mohawkrailfan wrote:JamesRR wrote: The WEC is only really useful for NJT riders exiting and heading west or to the 8 Ave subway. Those departing from it would need to know ahead of time their train is on track 5 or higher.For many commuters that is not difficult.
Also it's useful for anyone exiting anywhere, because it relieves the horrible crushing at the other staircases.
jamesinclair wrote:I can confirm the new concourse has zero NJTransit ticket machines and zero monitors showing NJ Transit departures.The stairway departure boards do show NJT train info, but ONLY if a train has been posted to that track. As you said, there are no general status boards there. It's a LIRR concourse for all intents and purposes.
JamesRR wrote:The stairway departure boards do show NJT train info, but ONLY if a train has been posted to that track. As you said, there are no general status boards there. It's a LIRR concourse for all intents and purposes.Given that NJT did not contribute a single dollar to the concourse, why would it be any different? NY State is not going to pay for NJT facilities. Note that there are no general Amtrak departure boards either. I do not expect that Cuomo's plan for the post office building will be any different -- it will be for LIRR only. The fact that Amtrak or NJT passengers can use these facilities is incidental, not intentional.
EuroStar wrote:JamesRR wrote:The stairway departure boards do show NJT train info, but ONLY if a train has been posted to that track. As you said, there are no general status boards there. It's a LIRR concourse for all intents and purposes.Given that NJT did not contribute a single dollar to the concourse, why would it be any different? NY State is not going to pay for NJT facilities. Note that there are no general Amtrak departure boards either. I do not expect that Cuomo's plan for the post office building will be any different -- it will be for LIRR only. The fact that Amtrak or NJT passengers can use these facilities is incidental, not intentional.