M3 car diagram

I was wondering if anyone knows where I might find a blueprint/diagram of the interior of an M3 car? Does such a thing exist?

DB: There are M3 car layout diagrams around - start by searching the archives of the LIRR and MNCR Forums here...

MACTRAXX

I'm not sure if the seating arrangements are the same between an M2 and a M3, but this should be a start for you.

Frankie

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The M-1,2,and 3 shared the same seating arrangement,as the designs are "pre-ADA" that's now
required,the only "oddball" was the M-2"C" car,aka the barcar.

Great info - thanks everyone.

I had an MTA book that listed the various rail cars they owned in the late 80s, i vaguely recall there being diagrams in there but I don't know if they showed the interior (probably shouldn't have ebay'ed that one... DOH!)

The M-3's were slightly different inside. Just slightly. The 2 air vents in the center of the cars eliminated a total of 3 seats, 2 on the 3 side, and one on the 2 side.Luggage racks were also different. the slats on an M-1 were horizontal and long, had a tendency to rattle, and the slats on the M-3s are short and vertical. The ceiling vents in the vestibules were also different.
Interior of M-1..
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Interior of M-3..
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So did the M1s not have the air vents?

no, the M1's did not have forced traction motor ventilation , so no window vent and duct.

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M3:

Crabman:

Good interior comparison pictures of the M1 and M3 cars...

The first picture is of a M1 car interior with their final blue and burgundy seating.
Noting that ad for the 2007 LIRR calendar posted - was this from the 2006 Farewell to the M1 fantrip?

The second picture shows a carpeted non-smoking car...The carpets were removed during the first half
of the 1980s (1980-84) and replaced with rubber based flooring. Note the cigarette ad in a nonsmoker...
The seat variations in this one are turquoise, beige and black...Originally odd number M1 cars in which
smoking was allowed had tiled floors similar to what older MU cars had...

The third picture shows a M1 with black, red and beige seats. The car number will itself note if it is a smoking
car (odd number car w/lavatory allow smoking, even number cars are NO SMOKING) and unfortunately for me
this car number visible on the cab door is not clearly readable...Smoking cars had a small flip sign in which
the word NO could be used to designate a smoker or non-smoker in a given train...

The fourth picture shows a (current) M3 car interior with the blue and burgundy seats.
In case anyone does not recall MNCR's M3 cars are slightly older then the LIRR's M3 cars are -
MNCR M3s date from 1984-85 and the LIRR M3s date from 1985-86. The LIRR M3s were delivered with
mix/match colored seats similar to what the M1s had - but the MNCR M3s were delivered with the blue
and burgundy seat colors - which I feel were the best seat colors these MU cars use(d) in service.

Most of the LIRR's M3s have the "new date" stenciled on the handbrake housing in between the married pairs
and even today - after thirty years - most of them are still readable. This can be found by simply walking from
car to car between the B ends of M3 cars. These read "New Budd" or "New TA" ("Transit America") and have a
1985 or 1986 date. Transit America was a final carbuilding title used by the Budd Company during the 80s.

MACTRAXX