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chuchubob wrote:Bigger windows to view the fall foliage.You're right. I just figure that Amtrak has to haul the Horizons in from somewhere else; even if they come to PHL on a regularly-scheduled train in lieu of its regular consist, the switching costs would add up. I was figuring that Amtrak would just try to maximize profit by using whatever spare Amfleets were sitting around the local coach yard.
Gilbert B Norman wrote:Hey y'all @ 60 Mass; here is a revenue enhancement idea.I would concur Mr. Norman, as I don't see how the Horizon windows are any "larger" or even can be compared to "picture windows" of an Amfleet I or even the larger window-ed Amfleet II. The later is the better option. But Amtrak can never seem to scrounge up enough Amfleet II's as spares.....They have used Amfleet I's for excursion use. Seems weird that they would haul Horizons from the Midwest to the East Coast for such a journey. We haven't really had a complete Horizon set in Philly since the Pennsylvanian travelled between NYP and CHI.
See if you could scour up a few A-II's for the consist. With their larger windows and 60 seat configuration, you'd be able to charge a premium to occupy them. I guess Dome 10031 is ruled out account those things known as wires with 11KV running through them.
The Port Road is a 'been there done that' for me in this life; the scenery IS spectacular.
But it is interesting to learn that Amtrak is getting into the fan trip business for their own account, and no doubt have factored in having to pay NS for pilot Engineers and Conductors (how many Amtrak T&E in service today are Rules Qualified over the Port?). Only 'cost' likely not factored is having to call in some non-Agreement 'help' to work on an otherwise day off.
ExCon90 wrote:does Amtrak know enough about railfan excursions to know that you don't sell every last seat on the train?Depends which roving resume is in charge this season. 20 years ago, Buckingham Valley Trolley Ass'n. - Penn's Landing Trolley liked to run trolley trips with about 20% standees, to keep the ticket price low. Other groups charged more so that they could make an acceptable profit with 10% empty seats. One of the BVTA vice-presidents back then was ConRail official. ConRail Historical Society's 1st trip sold the non-window seats in the ends of the cars. Are the insiders of these Groups now Amtrak officials?
JimBoylan wrote:That Conrail Historical Society excursion is the one I was thinking of. I gather from the subsequent fallout that they're never going to do that again. In fact, that's why I was wondering -- I don't know whether Amtrak has ever been involved in an excursion in which actual ticket sales weren't handled by some other organization. Of course the small windows wouldn't bother you if you didn't have a window ...ExCon90 wrote:does Amtrak know enough about railfan excursions to know that you don't sell every last seat on the train?Depends which roving resume is in charge this season. 20 years ago, Buckingham Valley Trolley Ass'n. - Penn's Landing Trolley liked to run trolley trips with about 20% standees, to keep the ticket price low. Other groups charged more so that they could make an acceptable profit with 10% empty seats. One of the BVTA vice-presidents back then was ConRail official. ConRail Historical Society's 1st trip sold the non-window seats in the ends of the cars. Are the insiders of these Groups now Amtrak officials?
njt/mnrrbuff wrote:How can a trip be sold out about a week after it was mentioned? It's not even September yet. I'm sure that more cars will be added. If I can get a ticket, I will definitely be on the trip.Wouldn't a comparable NRHS Harrisburg trip like this cost on the order of $120 or more?