• SEPTA Bethlehem Trail Set to Open

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Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

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  by Hacker
 
http://www.mcall.com/news/local/sauconv ... 6101.story
If all continues according to plan, more than half of the Saucon Rail Trail will open in April.

Three years in the making, the eight-mile long, 10-foot wide multi-use trail is being constructed along the path of the former SEPTA rail line. It runs through four municipalities in two counties. Officials hope it will provide endless enjoyment for thousands of outdoor enthusiasts.

"It's going to be great, fabulous, once it's done," said Lower Saucon Township Manager Jack Cahalan. "It's wide and breathtaking and goes through the heart of these communities."

Cahalan, a cyclist, can't wait for the snow to disappear and the finishing touches to be made to the trail to give it a try.

Upper Saucon Township and the boroughs of Hellertown and Coopersburg also are part of the planning and implementation of the trail. Cooperation among the foursome has been good, according to Cahalan, also a member of the trail advisory board, composed of members from each community.

Each municipality will set and enforce its own regulations for its section of trail; however the intention is that the sections operate as one park.

"Some intergovernmental agreements need to be worked out," Cahalan said. "Uniform signage and rules and so forth. But that hasn't been done yet."

The trail will originate at the Thomas Iron Site, near Saucon Park in Hellertown. It will wind about 1.4 miles southwest before entering Lower Saucon, which also hosts about 1.4 miles of the trail.

The two sections will open together because Hellertown provides needed access points to the trail. According to Charlie Luthar, outgoing borough manager there, a few issues remain to be resolved with the state Department of Transportation for the Water Street Crossing, where the department requires a flashing warning light to be moved. The Walnut Street crossing also requires signage and street markings in place before opening day.

"We got about $35,000 in a county grant for this work," Luthar said. "We're hoping to see the trail open in the spring, but these features have to be done first before we can open that crossing."

The lease agreement with the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority offered 30-year terms for payment of $1 per year. But the contract includes a right-of-reversion clause, meaning the authority has the right to reclaim the land to restore rail travel there if it chooses. The clause has been a sticking point in getting grants from the state, according to Tom Beil, township manager in Upper Saucon.

"The state doesn't want to put up money if SEPTA might come and take it back," he said. "I don't think it's likely, but they [SEPTA] insisted on that provision. We couldn't negotiate it. It would have been a deal-breaker."

Corporate and individual sponsorship has been pursued, with no luck to date, Cahalan said. So far, the municipalities have relied on their budgets, with the possibility of a grant pending from the Northampton County Gaming Authority for Lower Saucon and Hellertown.

In addition to the nearly 3-mile stretch in Hellertown and Lower Saucon, a 2-mile section is finished in Upper Saucon from the Township Park on Preston Lane to the border with Lower Saucon.

Phases 2 and 3, about one mile each, haven't been started, and are waiting for funding. Upper Saucon opted against funding the next phases this year as a cost-saving measure.

"We really don't have a timeline yet for them," Beil said. "It depends on the funding."

According to Borough Manager Dawn Kresge, work on Coopersburg's half-mile stretch of the trail won't begin for at least two more years, until Upper Saucon's Phase 2 gets to the Coopersburg border.

"The Upper Saucon trail connects on both sides, [of Coopersburg] and we can't start until they get to us. It will be a great resource, but we just have to wait," she said.

The next meeting of the Saucon Rail Trail Advisory Board, which is open to the public, will be 5 p.m. Feb. 28 in Coopersburg Borough Hall, 5 N. Main St., Coopersburg
  by scotty269
 
So, this whole project was really a double ended sword?

SEPTA wasn't going to restore service on the line so they leased it to the counties for 30 years, with the provision that they can reclaim it for train use at any time. With that clause in place, the counties are having difficulty obtaining grants from the state to completely finish and open the trail?
  by Clearfield
 
These deals were cut when the state was not in the financial bind it is now. SEPTA was corect to insist on a reversion clause.

If the local municipalities want the trail improvements, they'll need to fund them locally.
  by aquadan005
 
scotty269 wrote:....... with the provision that they can reclaim it for train use at any time.....
Yeah, like that'll ever happen!
  by tgolanos
 
"The state doesn't want to put up money if SEPTA might come and take it back," he said. "I don't think it's likely, but they [SEPTA] insisted on that provision.
I think this says it all. This attidtude is my problem with rail trails.
  by Clearfield
 
tgolanos wrote:I think this says it all. This attidtude is my problem with rail trails.
Which part?
  by tgolanos
 
Clearfield wrote:
tgolanos wrote:I think this says it all. This attidtude is my problem with rail trails.
Which part?
When that guy says he doesn't think it's likely that SEPTA will take back the ROW for rail use. It only goes to show that people view the possiblity of SEPTA re-claiming it as a joke. But should the time come, wait and see the fit they throw at the idea of losing their walking path.
  by trackwelder
 
tgolanos wrote:
Clearfield wrote:
tgolanos wrote:I think this says it all. This attidtude is my problem with rail trails.
Which part?
When that guy says he doesn't think it's likely that SEPTA will take back the ROW for rail use. It only goes to show that people view the possiblity of SEPTA re-claiming it as a joke. But should the time come, wait and see the fit they throw at the idea of losing their walking path.

agreed, although when it's really obviously gone forever, the o & w trail in the lackawanna valley comes to mind, i think it's alright.
  by tgolanos
 
jtaeffner wrote:agreed, although when it's really obviously gone forever, the o & w trail in the lackawanna valley comes to mind, i think it's alright.
Also agreed. If it's a ROW that's fully abandoned, I'm all for using it as a trail. I've biked several abandoned freight trails in the Poconos. When it comes to lines that could be used for moving people, though, we need to think what the greater good is. I've said it once and I'll say it again, a trail does not help us get to work or school.
  by Matthew Mitchell
 
tgolanos wrote:Also agreed. If it's a ROW that's fully abandoned, I'm all for using it as a trail.
Or closer to home, the Strafford Branch of the P&W, the Chester Valley Branch, or of course the PRR Schuylkill Branch.
  by glennk419
 
jtaeffner wrote:
tgolanos wrote:I think this says it all. This attidtude is my problem with rail trails.
When that guy says he doesn't think it's likely that SEPTA will take back the ROW for rail use. It only goes to show that people view the possiblity of SEPTA re-claiming it as a joke. But should the time come, wait and see the fit they throw at the idea of losing their walking path.

agreed, although when it's really obviously gone forever, the o & w trail in the lackawanna valley comes to mind, i think it's alright.[/quote]

Big difference here. The O&W went out of business what, 50+ years ago as a redundant bridge line (no offense intended to O&W fans). The Bethlehem branch was a heavy duty, two track, fully CTC signaled quasi main line that was deliberately allowed to rust into oblivion and SEPTA is (supposed to be) an existing transit authority responsible for moving people today.
  by tgolanos
 
Matthew Mitchell wrote:
tgolanos wrote:Also agreed. If it's a ROW that's fully abandoned, I'm all for using it as a trail.
Or closer to home, the Strafford Branch of the P&W, the Chester Valley Branch, or of course the PRR Schuylkill Branch.
Depends on your definition of the Schuylkill Branch. If you're talking west/north or Ivy Ridge, then yes, I support that trail seeing as it directly follows the Norristown Line. But I still feel that the line from Cynwyd to Ivy Ridge should be re-opened for the reason that glennk419 mentions- it was allowed by SEPTA to rot.
  by Pacobell73
 
We have to remember, too, that a line loses a lot of its value as a railroad once the tracks are gone. Case in point: pver the last few years, several freight operators have been approached to tap into possible markets on the Newtown and Bethlehem Branches. With tracks now gone, they withdrew interest because it is too much money upfront and questionable ROI. It is still far cheaper to restore tracks to Class III conditions vs. rebuilding from the ground up. So essentially, a SEPTA lease is nothing more than railbanking.