Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

b&m 1566 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 4:28 pm I'm pretty sure there are state laws pertaining to the use of volunteers for, for profit companies. I don't think you can use them in position that makes the company money or use them in paid positions.

Same with Black River (divided into a railroad and a historic trust). State and federal labor and tax laws come into
play, regarding the definition of employee vs. volunteer.

Both the Hobo and Winnipesaukee Scenic operations have been acquired by Patriot Rail:

https://www.railwayage.com/freight/shor ... n3eeew9_Us

I wonder how the Patriot Rail acquisition will affect the owners of the railroad equipment at various locations between Concord and Lincoln. The 5 RDCs that have been stored at Lincoln for a number of years will be departing for the Berkshire Scenic Railway Museum lines.

Those RDCs have already arrived on Berkshire Scenic property....

The state owns the tracks regardless.

The Hobo did a great job with the two operations for many years. Nothing but great things to say! It will be interesting to see if Patriot keeps the Hobo theme or if they decide to make it more of a traditional scenic railroad with heritage paint schemes etc...

Would be great if they might be willing to create some "museum" tracks at Lincoln to show off some of the unique pieces that are not being used. Ie: the Flying Yankee, a few of the Alcos, 44 tonner, and maybe a proper B&M painted budd car too!

Patriot Rail does have one excursion operation in its stable of 31 RRs - the Blue Ridge Scenic line in Georgia:
https://patriotrail.com/services/affili ... c-railway/

We will just have to see how it plays out. I think the Hobo is in good hands.

p42thedowneaster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:57 pm Would be great if they might be willing to create some "museum" tracks at Lincoln to show off some of the unique pieces that are not being used. Ie: the Flying Yankee, a few of the Alcos, 44 tonner, and maybe a proper B&M painted budd car too!

Not really any need to do that, considering you can see pretty much all the equipment on site as is; the Flying Yankee is sitting on blocks, so that's an entirely moot point.

Does anyone know if anyone got footage of them in motion? I was up there recently, but they'd already been moved.

NHV 669 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 3:07 pm Those RDCs have already arrived on Berkshire Scenic property....

The state owns the tracks regardless.

I am pretty sure the state/FYA are trying to move the Yankee out. Ben wanted it off his property for several years and depending on where they are in that process, I have to believe moving it, is still par for the course.

If the state left a dump truck in my driveway for over 10 years, could I eventually claim ownership of it? Best thing that could happen in my mind is that the new owners would want to keep it, if for no other reason than to put it back on its wheels and show it off properly. Same for the Alcos...they could use proper MEC, BM, PT paint schemes for display in retirement.
Having these things shown off nicely is a great way to inspire younger generations to want to undertake full restorations in the future. MEC 501, and BM4268 are great examples.

If you had paid any attention to the recent efforts regarding the FY consist, you'd know the exact opposite is the goal.

As for the rest of their power, much of it is stored serviceable and in some form of the PLLX scheme, why waste thousands to repaint them, for the sake of appeasing a handful of middle age foamers?

Well I think I've been paying attention. I was in Glen the night it arrived, 30 years ago. I was there the day 4266 rolled by in front of it as the snow fell on the first revenue run to Bartett. I was there in Lincoln the day it arrived and watched it roll up hobo hill piece by piece led by the Clark's calliope playing! I bought the tee shirt...wore out the tee shirt, and then bought a new one! I am aware of the efforts now, but my expectations are tempered to say the least.
Sorry to disagree about the ALCOs at least. Lol

p42thedowneaster wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:45 pmIf the state left a dump truck in my driveway for over 10 years, could I eventually claim ownership of it? Best thing that could happen in my mind is that the new owners would want to keep it, if for no other reason than to put it back on its wheels and show it off properly.

If it was only that easy. Maybe Ben had a case for that but it's hard to draw that card when you need the states tracks to run your business. If this new owner barks up the wrong tree, they could find themselves on the losing end on the next bid.
Maybe the new owner will welcome the train, maybe they won't, we just don't know. It all could be moot anyways, depending how far along they are in the process of finding a new home.

The first change has already been made. Leo's Party Caboose now wears the Hancock A4700 from Deer Park. The M3 has been taken off for sound concerns