Operable Stillwell Coaches?

Thought it might be interesting to bat this subject around -- how many serviceable Stillwells are still rolling along?

Start off with the Whitewater Valley RR in Connellsville, Indiana -- while their current website is still being rebuilt, the "Wayback Machine" (http://web.archive.org) offered this roster list from WVRR's 2003 website:

(Another gem in there is one of the ex-NYC Susquehanna coaches from the "bad old days" of the 1960's!)

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All cars are painted red with gold striping and lettered for Whitewater Valley in gold unless noted. The WVRR number appears near doorways on the bottom of the cars, while the original owner and number appear at the middle of the car. Plans are to paint cars back to original owners' appearance in the future.

#1 Stillwell suburban Coach. Built 1934, by Pullman Co. for the Erie RR- #2471. Purchased from Kentucky Railway Museum (KRM). Seats 92-- length - 78' 1"--weight - 109,246 lbs.

#2 Stillwell suburban Coach. Built 1934, by Pullman Co. for the Erie RR- #2420. Purchased from KRM. Seats 92-- length - 78'1" -- weight - 109,246 lbs.

#3 Stillwell Semi-Suburban Coach. Built 1934 by American Car & Foundry Co.(ACF) for the Erie RR.- #2634. Purchased from the E-L RR. Seats - 76--length - 78'l" -weight - 117,760 lbs.

#4 Stillwell Semi-Suburban Coach. Built 1934 by ACF for the Erie RR.- #2612. Purchased from the E-L RR. Seats - 76-- length - 78'1"- weight - 117,760 lbs.

#5 Stillwell Semi-Suburban Coach. Built 1934 by ACF for the Erie RR.- #2600. Purchased from the E-L RR. Seats - 76-- length - 78'1" - weight - 117,760 lbs.

#6 Suburban Coach. EX - Boston & Albany #1135, EX - New York Central #1135, EX - Delaware & Hudson, and EX - New York, Suesquehanna & Western #212. Purchased from Cadillac & Lake City RR. Seats - 96-- length- 79'

#7 Suburban Coach. Built 1923 by Standard Steele Car Co. for Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific Railway (CRI&P Ry) #2528. Purchased from Illinois Railway Museum (IRM), 1985. Seats------ length - 81 '7" - weight - 96,800 lbs.

#8 StilIwell Suburban Coach. Built 1926 for the Erie RR. #2331. Purchased 1985 from Marquette & Huron Mountain KR (M&HIM). Seats - 86-- length - 72'7 1/4". This car has original Arches above windows, arch bar trucks and is 5'3 3/4" shorter than our other Stillwell cars.

#9 Suburban Combine. EX-Chicago & Northwestern #7718. Purchased 1985 from M&HM. Seats 70.

#10 Suburban Coach. Built 1928 by Standard Steel Car Co. For CRI&P Ry #2595. Purchased from IRM in 1985. Seats 97. Length 81. 7". Weight 96,800 lbs.

-- Clerestory Roof baggage car. EX - B&O KR. Number not known Used for storage. Car awaiting restoration.

-- Clerestory Roof Railway Post Office. EX- B&O RR. Used by B&O as camp car #X4293. Donated by Chessie System in 1986. Sold to B&O RR Museum in 1995 and stored on WVRR.

-- Clerestory Roof Coach. EX- Pere Marquette, Ex B&O RR. Used later by B&O RR as camp car #X4296. Donated 1986 by Chessie System. Sold 1995 to B&O RR Museum and stored on WVKR property.


http://web.archive.org/web/200102161947 ... coach.html

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Apparently at that time the WVRR started to repaint the Stillwells back into their Erie appearance:

http://dowt.whitewatervalleyrr.org/proceeds.php

http://www.pbase.com/dfoulke/image/69385683

http://www.pbase.com/dfoulke/image/69385680



Anybody know of any others still serviceable?

We've got one currently under restoration at our museum in Rochester, NY... needs interior restoration after undergoing an exterior restoration.

http://www.rgvrrm.org/about/railroad

-otto-

A recent business trip afforded the opportunity to go see the Whitewater Valley's cars up close. Of course, a January weekday was not a likely time to find anybody onsite, so the images I was able to take were from the adjoining State Highway. I've posted a sampling of images on Flickr, which by the way, seems to be a handy place to post images:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/isaksenj/

2331 and 2471 were particularly impressive -- compliments to the Whitewater Valley folks for a nice job on the exterior renovations! Unfortunately, the circumstances and timing of my visit did not allow the chance to go on the cars.