• Knox & Kane Railroad - What's Left in 2014

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Pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in Pennsylvania

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  by SST
 
This weekend looks like a good bike riding weekend. I've looked for info regarding anything out of Kane or Marienville. Nothing new. Has the trail been completed? Where does it begin/end?

Thanks
  by thebigham
 
I was in Mt. Jewett yesterday.

The K&K tracks between Kane and Mt. Jewett were scrapped recently.

Rails and ties have been removed. I'll post pics to North American Rail soon.
  by FLRailFan1
 
Benjamin Maggi wrote:I wonder what happened to the steam engine. Built in 1989 in China for the railroad, it was burned badly in 2008. Not even ten years old!
I believe the Valley Railroad bought it.. and 'made' it into a New Haven steam locomotive...
  by SST
 
I have been taking up an interest in Dubois, Pa due to the Little Depot Restaurant. I love the collection of rail cars. It appears to be quite popular as the 3 times I've been there, the bar [converted boxcar] is always full of people. I ordered a pizza this time and ate the whole thing! I recommend it. Anyways.....

I usually take 219N to get back to Buffalo but decided to head over to Clarion and head North on 66 and retrace the my original trip described on page 1. I'm so happy I did. There are some sections of the ROW that have been "upgraded." From some starting point in Clarion [not certain where yet] and heading north to the Lucinda depot, appears to be asphalted the whole way. About 10 miles. But the row in the immediate area of the Lucinda Depot is stone. Just north of Lucinda the row goes back to dirt but looks maintained. But upon approaching the JCT of 66 and 36, it is dirt and barely maintained at all.

This is a picture of the Lucinda depot: https://i.postimg.cc/5jcXfkwp/IMG-1263.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A side note: I had no idea that the Lucinda depot existed. It was due to stopping to photograph the St Joseph Church around noon [beautiful at sunset]. I stopped across the street but didn't want to turn around on such a steep road so I just kept going until I could easily turn around. Hence, I found the depot purely by chance or...….influence? Hmmmmmmm. I plan on riding the trail and visit the church during the summer. https://i.postimg.cc/jjqm8xGQ/IMG-1262.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Along the way to Marienville and through the Alleghany Forest, the row was not improved, at least not for biking. Mostly for either hiking or riding horses. I may check it out during the summer. Having not been in Marienville for several years, I couldn't remember where the stall was. I parked the car at the Marienville depot and got the bike out. The row is stoned for walking or riding about 1 mile or so north and south of the depot. Nice ride. But I also found that the shed has been torn down. The concrete blocks for the wall have been used to fill in everything. The concrete floor is basically still in place. Google still shows it standing.

Depot looking north: https://i.postimg.cc/d0KtDyZQ/IMG-1264.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

North end of path: https://i.postimg.cc/W4bpMP8x/IMG-1267.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

South end of path: https://i.postimg.cc/vmcFY838/IMG-1266.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Remains of the shed: https://i.postimg.cc/bJtSDtqm/IMG-1265.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The stoned section was pretty nice to ride on but beyond that it was dirt. Maybe during the summer when everything is dry it will be okay to ride on.

From there all the way into Kane, was not upgraded. I was certain from my first trip down 66, it was going to be a long asphalted path so I'm surprised that it isn't. It was also sad to see that Knox and Kane ROW was all ripped up and stacks and stacks of rr ties lay along the row from Kane to 219. The Kane depot looks in great shape and is surrounded buy what appears to be a construction company. They have equipment right up to both sides and the rear wall. Looks like protection rather than destruction. But it's standing.

I forgot all about the private collection along 66 just north of the church. I was so busy looking out the driver side window following the ROW, I never looked out the passenger window.

Hopefully my next update won't be 5 years from now......hopefully this summer.
  by SST
 
Last Fall, I rode my bike down the K&K from RT219 east into Mt Jewett and then into the Kinzua Bridge State Park. It was great timing because the leaves were changing and it was one of the most colorful paths I've been on. I plan on doing it again this summer. There wasn't any improved path from 219 west so that will have to wait.

The view from the remaining portion of the bridge is amazing. Highly recommended if you're in the area.
  by SST
 
The conversion of the K&K continues. This picture is from Rt219 looking west towards Kane. Rolled stone. I’m not certain how far this section goes.
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This picture location is where the ROW crosses Rt 6 with the golf course behind me. Looking east towards 219. The path is taped closed so it’s recently done.
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In between these two areas are several miles of untouched ROW since the track was pulled. I would imagine that this will be taken care of by mid summer 2024. But I’m guesstimating.

This picture is the Kane depot trailhead looking east. Behind me is untouched ROW. Thick brush.
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About 1/4 mile away the ROW(path) has a sign pointing either towards the golf course (3 miles) or Lamont (4 miles). Lamont will have to wait for either lots of snow or late spring.

I was hoping the trestle, 1/2 mile from the depot, was going to be in good shape for crossing. Unfortunately it’s blocked off. A convenient detour is in place. The upper deck appears to be in poor condition. The beams below look reasonably ok but I did not give it close inspection. First pic it looking west towards Kane:
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  by SST
 
Looking west:
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Looking east from the other side:
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The path conversion is looking nice and am already looking forward to next year. I truly hope they leave the telegraph poles in place. And keep the many stacks of ties in place. Don’t erase its history.
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  by SST
 
What a comparison from the day above to today. Freezing my but off to sweating my but off. Here’s a review of my ride.

When I departed last year it appeared that “They” were working on the line between Rt6 east to Rt219. But today, no change. Not completed due to funding I was told. This picture shows the end of what’s been accomplished west of Rt219. About 1 mile. I rode another few hundred feet or so and ended up in someone’s backyard The hound dogs went wild like a fox hunt in England. I turned around and left.
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That first mile is really nice. I actually thought it was asphalt it was so perfect.

I took a couple of pictures while riding the line from Kane to Lamont and then decided to go all the way to Russell. The current end of the trail. The trail is nice. Stacks and stacks of RR ties one after another. You can even smell the creosote on some of them. Groups of telegraph poles are still in place. For me it added to the ride, not just a standard path.

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This is the first bridge over live track. Kane is several hundred feet away around the curve.

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I actually took this picture on my return. About 1 mile from Russell. I needed a break so I sat on the bench and took in the view. The trail is largely in shade…thankfully.

Here are pictures of the water tower at Russell. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one on a trail before.
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Just a nice pic of farmland.

I did about 30 miles today. Man am I tired. But it was worth the exploration. Looking forward to the completion of 6 to 219.
  by SST
 
BTW, thanks to whomever fixed the photo glitch. I am now able to load my pics from my phone again without being tipped over.