Bracdude181 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:51 pm
I don’t know about the 2008 environmental draft, but here’s the freight plan.
https://www.state.nj.us/transportation/ ... f/FRSP.pdf
Just a heads up: This one is a long read.
Just skimming through it right now. Thanks for the link, it's very informative
From PDF page 188/report page A-33 onwards:
1. You can see that they want to investigate re-opening the line for not only freight, but also passenger rail. I'd imagine that would involve MOM/some sort of MOM successor. However, those plans don't involve Woodmansie-Winslow? Not sure what purpose that would serve, unless they also had a rail connection to Atlantic City International Airport.
2. They estimated that if this line was around, there would be a per carload savings of $50-100
3. A two day
reduction time between Oak Island Yard and South Jersey. I'm not sure how that would work when a) as discussed here it seems like it should take longer, b) it's been said Oak Island-Camden/South Jersey is only 10 carloads a year, and c) isn't South Jersey already served by Camden instead? Maybe Woodmansie-Winslow would be better since it would be direct access to the ports of Newark
4. We have an exact number: $130M to fix the whole thing in 2014, which would be $152,630,947.55 in today's money. I'm not sure if that number is for upgrading/rebuilding the entire
Southern or just the 30 or so miles from Winslow-Woodmansie. If it's the latter, that means a whopping $5M per mile; however it's most likely the former, since if you're going to build one part of the line to Class 2, might as well do it to the whole thing
5. Going off of 4, I'm not sure what Woomansie-Lakehurst, Clayton/NJSL's track, looked like before restoration, but I'd imagine that it was pretty similar to the state of Woodmansie-Winslow at the time. If I'm recalling correctly, it wasn't horribly expensive to redo the 13 miles.
From PDF page 190/report page A-35 onwards:
They discuss how Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst is isolated from the rail network. Not exactly sure what they would receive if they still had rail service (I believe this has been discussed on the main Southern thread multiple times a while back), but the study says that the base could be in jeopardy of closing at some point since other bases that have rail service are less likely to be axed, and every so often you hear about Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst being threatened with closure. No base = thousands of jobs lost, Base with trains = base has a less likely chance of being closed + that means extra jobs related to the base
From PDF page 199/report page A-44 onwards:
A brief mention of the need to develop more intermodal yards, with an emphasis on Central and South Jersey. This most likely would utilize the Southern, however, it was not mentioned in this part. I doubt they will build any new intermodal facilities in Jersey, however, both the recent NJTPA and this report state that intermodal traffic in NJ has grown and continues to grow significantly. One contender for an intermodal facility, if one is ever built in Central/South Jersey, could be the old Ciba-Giegy spot. However, I am looking into this intermodal thing deeper than the report went into.
From PDF page 240/report page A-85 onwards:
1. The Woodmansie-Winslow reactivation would be used to free up 25 miles of rail between Woodbury and Vineland for the planned Glassboro-Camden Line. This section currently has no customers, but I believe it is still used for thoroughfare freight trains going elsewhere.
2. Woodmansie-Winslow reconnection would be a more direct route to Bridgeton and avoid street running in certain places
3. It was stated that reconnecting Woodmansie-Winslow would help secure freight service in South Jersey for present and future customers
From PDF page 252/report page A-97:
A brief discussion of the MOM plans. I was surprised to see that each of the proposed routes wasn't that long, with the shortest being 26 miles and the longest being 38. For some reason, I thought any MOM proposals were pushing 50 miles at least.
Overall, it seems like they have very much considered the potential for a Woodmansie-Winslow reactivation. Will it ever happen? Who knows. Unless NJ Transit gets involved, it probably won't.