Needham Line

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Needham Line

Post by theseaandalifesaver » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:54 am

Do any trains other than MBTA Needham line trains run anywhere on that branch between Forest Hills and Needham Heights? Is the Millis line beyond the wye at Needham Junction still active or have the rails been pulled up? It's hard to tell on google maps.

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Re: Needham Line

Post by chrisf » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:00 pm

The only trains that run on the line are MBTA trains.
The line becomes a rail trail just past Needham Junction through Needham; there are no tracks from there to the Charles River bridge. Rails on and past the Charles River bridge are there but the line is long since abandoned. Dover is fighting over whether to make a rail trail or not.

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Re: Needham Line

Post by TomNelligan » Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:20 pm

There hasn't been any freight service between Forest Hills and Needham Junction in at least 50 years. NH/PC/Bay Colony ran to Newton Upper Falls via Medfield Junction and Needham Junction, so Needham Junction-Needham Heights saw occasional freights until the Bay Colony cut back.

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Re: Needham Line

Post by Teamdriver » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:05 am

Would this line be the one to service Pope Lumber where Roche Bros . is now in West Roxbury and The liquor distributor that was on Rivermoor by the old City of Boston dump ?

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Re: Needham Line

Post by MBTA3247 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:41 pm

The line does go right by those points. There's even remnants of a spur to the latter, assuming it's the self-storage place opposite Gardner St from the Home Depot.
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Re: Needham Line

Post by Teamdriver » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:07 am

Exactly, seen cars on that siding when it was a liquor warehouse.Not sure how the rail bridge that ran over Spring street nearby connects into all this , as it is gone now , and my memory is clouded. Fairly certain what is now Roche Bros used to be Pope Lumber, and it got rail cars as well.

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Re: Needham Line

Post by MBTA3247 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:16 pm

The bridge over Spring St was on the original line down to Dedham.
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Re: Needham Line

Post by johnpbarlow » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:38 am

Apologies for the cheesy quality of attached iPhone photo of Needham Heights layover yard taken on Saturday 1/19/19 but the train on the right appears to be facing the wrong direction. Wonder why?
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Re: Needham Line

Post by Trinnau » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:16 am

The last few years they've started turning trains ahead of big storms, so the first train inbound runs engine first. The engines fare a little better striking heavy snowbanks and trees.

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Re: Needham Line

Post by johnpbarlow » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:26 pm

Clever idea! Thanks!

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Re: Needham Line

Post by johnpbarlow » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:02 pm

I notice that T train engines are idling at the Needham Heights layover yard - doesn’t the T have external engine /train heating power there so engines can be shutdown in the winter?

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Re: Needham Line

Post by Backshophoss » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:02 pm

Sometimes the weather will force them to Idle the prime movers,"block heaters" are not always effective at certain temps.
May have a open circuit in in the block heater coils.
May have a problem with the Standby Ground power setup at the layover site! :(
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Re: Needham Line

Post by Rbts Stn » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:41 am

Sometime yesterday the continued announcements of No Saturday Service on the Needham line (for PTC) changed from finishing up on October 12th to finishing up on November 9th.

Also noticed in the past few days there is a quiet electronic announcement on the trains (Needham line, at least) reminding folks that the Quiet Car is the one nearest the engine. I didn't know this was still a thing!

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Re: Needham Line

Post by johnpbarlow » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:37 am

Of course, on off-peak trains, the coach closest to the engine is the only one in use as it stops at the high level platforms! :wink:

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Re: Needham Line

Post by chrisf » Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:51 am

The quiet car is only a peak train thing anyway.
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