by Jersey_Mike
Can someone provide me with a Google maps type link to the location of both abandoned portals of the old LVRR Pattenburg tunnel? I saw a photo of one of them, but no location info was given. I'd live to visit it.
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Jersey_Mike wrote:Can someone provide me with a Google maps type link to the location of both abandoned portals of the old LVRR Pattenburg tunnel? I saw a photo of one of them, but no location info was given. I'd live to visit it.http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&g ... 54502&z=15
njt5140 wrote:I really wouldn't suggest hiking in being the area is private property, I believe the Hunterdon Co gun club owns the east side, and I took a walk over to the old tunnel one evening I was up there for a bit and it seemed to have about three feet of water into it and leading up to it.
Jersey_Mike wrote:Oh, its right next to the regular Pattenburg Tunnel. Ok' I've been to both end of that no problem. Cool, now I have a reason to go back.Thats a good question, but here is another one could they bring it back if wanted to?
Hmmm, wonder why Conrail/NS didn't re-bore the old tube instead of just single tracking the new one. They could have had two doublestack ready lines instead of a single track bottleneck.
Jersey_Mike wrote:Oh, its right next to the regular Pattenburg Tunnel. Ok' I've been to both end of that no problem. Cool, now I have a reason to go back.Hmmmm ... let's see ... the railroad is single track for miles on either side of the tunnel, and the reconfiguration gave NS TWO passing sidings in the vicinity, instead of one. So, how is that a "single track bottleneck?' If you were talking about the Flat Rock or Phoenixville Tunnels, you might have a valid reason to want to double track (since they are both single track tunnels with double track lines converging on either end), but Pattenburg doesn't justify the expense of messing with a tunnel that hasn't been used since the late 1920's. The costs simply outweigh the benefits.
Hmmm, wonder why Conrail/NS didn't re-bore the old tube instead of just single tracking the new one. They could have had two doublestack ready lines instead of a single track bottleneck.
photorailfan wrote:I was there about four years ago and the only thing i saw patroling the place was a large black snake that was slithering towards me. I ran a short distance and stopped.That may have been the case 4 years ago, but things have definitely changed. First, the old quarry property has been purchased and the new owners have installed a good deal of security lighting in the vicinity of the old buildings that remain near CP 64 (most of the buildings have been torn down). The land owners know some thick-headed railfans aren't going to listen when told repeatedly to stay away from the tunnel. As a result, they are extremely active in keeping trespassers off their land and will press charges if they catch you there. Second, due to a high number of trespasser incidents west of Bloomsbury, the local and NS police have stepped up patrols in the areas of CP 62 to CP 67 ... including the tunnel itself. We would rarely see any PD activity in the area, but now it is common to see NS Special Agents along the access roads, as well as local police.
photorailfan wrote:Remote cameras? I would have never thought of that. I guess 4 years does make a difference. Thanks for the info. The reason why i went there was out of curiosity because of what i read in a book. The HOT SPOTS book. You might know what i'm talking about. I think it's time to update it. Scratch it off the list.Yes ... remote cameras. I'm not at liberty to discuss where they may be, or any other details, but over the past couple years the Department of Homeland Security has worked with the railroads to step up monitoring of certain shipments and/or locations ... including the use of remote cameras.