• Winfield Jct. signals photo date?

  • Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.
Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

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  by nyandw
 
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Winfield Jct. Signal Bridge R40 View W - Archive: Dave Morrison

Anyone know when the PRR position light signals replaced the semaphore signals after 1940?
The name of the business at the far left?

Thank you.
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
Building at left is 48-16 70th Street, Woodside, built 1940 according to the Buildings Commissioner records on file.

Located across the street from the Winfield team track, not a railroad customer.
  by Head-end View
 
Isn't that bridge still there but without any signals on it?
  by nyandw
 
R36 Combine Coach: Thank you as that was a piece of the puzzle as to the photo date. The semaphore signals are in place in this 12/20/1940 blueprint:
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Sometime after replaced by position light signals, anyone?
  by ExCon90
 
nyandw wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:00 am R36 Combine Coach: Thank you as that was a piece of the puzzle as to the photo date. The semaphore signals are in place in this 12/20/1940 blueprint:
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Sometime after replaced by position light signals, anyone?
The symbols on the blueprint are the standard symbols for PRR position-light signals and show aspects not possible on semaphores, so the PLs must have been in service on 12/20/40. Also, almost all PRR signals were by Union Switch & Signal of Swissvale, PA (Pittsburgh),while this installation is by General Railway Signal of Syracuse, NY (and we all know what railroad served Syracuse!), and the switch and signal numbering is not in accord with US&S practice. (Very unusual -- I was told that the PRR used GRS for Bryn Mawr interlocking as an experiment but they stuck with US&S.)

Edit: The signal bridge in the photo is the one west of the bridge shown as Grand Ave. on the blueprint, looking west, if that's any help.
  by workextra
 
Both signal bridges are still there today.
All switches are gone.
Remains of the team and coal trestle are still there. As is the foundation of win tower.

It’s a very shortsighted move to not restore more of Win as part of the new “wood” interlocking
  by nyandw
 
ExCon90, et al.: New information: WIN Interlocking revised blueprint 12/10/1937 Drawn and revised 7/12/1928
Notation, left corner: Position light (PL) signals installed 8/1927 Archive: Jeff Erlitz

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We have the photo post 8/1927, thus far...
  by wintower
 
nyandw wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:28 am Image
Winfield Jct. Signal Bridge R40 View W - Archive: Dave Morrison

Anyone know when the PRR position light signals replaced the semaphore signals after 1940?
The name of the business at the far left?

Thank you.
Supro Building Supplies and it was a railroad customer. In the fall of '73 and the spring of '74 the local would service the team track about 10:00a. a few times a week and then proceed on to its next customer- the Jane Parker bakery of A&P in Flushing.